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wadeintothem Tue Mar 31, 2009 07:41pm

Foul side of the bag is a good one :)

Of course with the orange bag.....

NCASAUmp Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:03pm

Sadly, I had an umpire ask me the following question...

If a fly ball passes 3B in fair territory, then curves foul and out of play, is that a ground rule double?

:eek::confused::(

BretMan Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:08pm

Had a catcher that was a BIG kid and liked to set-up close to the plate. Made it tough for me to get a good look at the ball hitting the mitt.

Pitch comes in, batter swings and misses. DEFENSIVE coach starts yelling, "Come on, Blue, you got to call that!". I'm scratching my head. I did call it- it was a strike.

The coach is getting more and more vocal about how I "missed that call". I figure that maybe I should talk to the coach real quick and see what's up.

Me: Okay, coach, what's the problem.

Coach: How can you miss that? You've got to call that! The batter can't do that! Somebody is going to get hurt!

Me: What exactly is it you think I missed? (I didn't see it or hear anything unusual).

Coach: The batter hit the catcher's mitt! That's interference!

Me: Coach, I was blocked out and didn't see it. I'll watch for it, but in the meantime you might want to tell your catcher to back off the plate a bit.

Coach: (still not satisfied) Come on, Blue. You have to call that!

Me: Are you sure you want me to call that?

Coach: Yes.

Me: Are you really, really sure?

Coach: YES!

Me: Okay. If you insist....(loudly) That's obstruction! You (pointing at batter), first base!

BretMan Tue Mar 31, 2009 09:15pm

A sad/funny one about another umpire I worked with...

I'm on the plate, parther in "A", right-handed batter.

Pitch comes in low and batter checks his swing.

I call "Ball".

Catcher asks me to check with partner on the checked swing.

I step out from behind the plate, point to my partner and ask, "Did he go?".

My partner gives me a deer in the headlights look, stands there for a few seconds and then....shrugs his shoulders!

wadeintothem Tue Mar 31, 2009 11:00pm

I agree its ok to laugh!

There are those games/tournaments/times when its all business, for me its not all the time though.

You have a lot less problems if you develop a working relationship with those involved, learn names, and treat em with respect and have a little fun. If you try to be dictator-in-chief you'll earn yourself a bunch of trouble and on the other side, some D head coaches try to make that impossible. The extreme side of having a little fun at the right moment is the dancing bear umpire who is putting on a show for everyone - thats almost as bad as the ultra anal umpire running around left field checking shirt tucks and bandaids.

ChampaignBlue Wed Apr 01, 2009 05:47am

Hard line drive down first base line. BR leading catcher and I trailing. Ball hits the line. Catcher yells out "FOUL BALL!!!!". BR stops and turns to question my judgement only to find me pointing furiously fair. He resumes running and I stick out my left arm but right fielder is now taking his time chasing down the "foul ball". BR takes a wide turn at third, thinks better of it since the ball has finally been retrieved and returns to third. Time. I award BR home on the obstruction.

Defense tries to argue that it was only verbal and I can't call it Obs. Sorry fellas your catcher yelled something reserved for me.

Defense now tries to argue that it also obstructed their fielder.

Sigh. Sorry fellas no rule against interfering with a team mate.

Ref Ump Welsch Wed Apr 01, 2009 07:39am

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 593079)
Foul side of the bag is a good one :)

Of course with the orange bag.....

You are evil, just plain evil :D

chartrusepengui Wed Apr 01, 2009 08:42am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 593113)
A sad/funny one about another umpire I worked with...

I'm on the plate, parther in "A", right-handed batter.

Pitch comes in low and batter checks his swing.

I call "Ball".

Catcher asks me to check with partner on the checked swing.

I step out from behind the plate, point to my partner and ask, "Did he go?".

My partner gives me a deer in the headlights look, stands there for a few seconds and then....shrugs his shoulders!


this happened to me my very first game. No one on, and I was set up too close to foul line behind first. F3 moved into my line of vision and I didn't see the play. Catcher askes PU to check with me on check swing. PU points at me and asks. I've officiated enough other sports to know that if I don't know differently - I'm sticking with PU's call. I gave a strong signal. Following game on way to car he was laughing. Said he knew I didn't see it but asked anyway to see what I would do. Told me he'd be happy to work with me again. I've adjusted my positioning!

Ref Ump Welsch Wed Apr 01, 2009 09:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BretMan (Post 593106)
Had a catcher that was a BIG kid and liked to set-up close to the plate. Made it tough for me to get a good look at the ball hitting the mitt.

Pitch comes in, batter swings and misses. DEFENSIVE coach starts yelling, "Come on, Blue, you got to call that!". I'm scratching my head. I did call it- it was a strike.

The coach is getting more and more vocal about how I "missed that call". I figure that maybe I should talk to the coach real quick and see what's up.

Me: Okay, coach, what's the problem.

Coach: How can you miss that? You've got to call that! The batter can't do that! Somebody is going to get hurt!

Me: What exactly is it you think I missed? (I didn't see it or hear anything unusual).

Coach: The batter hit the catcher's mitt! That's interference!

Me: Coach, I was blocked out and didn't see it. I'll watch for it, but in the meantime you might want to tell your catcher to back off the plate a bit.

Coach: (still not satisfied) Come on, Blue. You have to call that!

Me: Are you sure you want me to call that?

Coach: Yes.

Me: Are you really, really sure?

Coach: YES!

Me: Okay. If you insist....(loudly) That's obstruction! You (pointing at batter), first base!

Had a football coach who was about as stupid as this coach you dealt with, though he did seem to have a smart motive for it. He wanted my white hat to change the illegal motion penalty (which is a live ball penalty that can be declined) to a false start penalty (which is dead ball and cannot be declined) because he thought I had it wrong because his receivers were moving at the snap. They weren't stimulating the snap, so that's why I called it illegal motion. Coach kept insisting for the false start, and I pulled out a flag and called unsportsmanlike conduct on him. My white hat had the deer in the headlights look, as did the coach. When I said to my white hat, "coach is trying to pull a fast one on us," white hat said "next one will cost you your a** coach!" Coach wanted to know how he was pulling a fast one. He never figured it out and looked like he was trying to catch his tail between his legs. The rest of that game went so easy.

Andy Wed Apr 01, 2009 10:32am

Quote:

Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 592832)
Many Tournaments:
Partner in C - Check swing on a righty.
Coach yelling "see if she went see if she went" so catch asks me.
Me to 1B base coach "Did she go... be honest now?"
So far every base coach as said no.

Sometimes they think its funny, sometimes not.. but I always get a kick out of it.

I did this once in a one-man rec game....the first base coach came back to me with a loud YES and a good strike signal...it took him a few seconds to realize what he had just done!

Dukat Wed Apr 01, 2009 01:34pm

ME: Strike

Batter: Come on blue, that pitch was up around my bosoms!

Me: And your bosoms are below your armpits are they not?

NCASAUmp Wed Apr 01, 2009 01:37pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukat (Post 593317)
ME: Strike

Batter: Come on blue, that pitch was up around my bosoms!

Me: And your bosoms are below your armpits are they not?

Some are down to their knees...

Dukat Wed Apr 01, 2009 01:42pm

I will have to admit. I couldn't help but laugh then and she did as well.

IRISHMAFIA Wed Apr 01, 2009 02:07pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dukat (Post 593317)
ME: Strike

Batter: Come on blue, that pitch was up around my bosoms!

Me: And your bosoms are below your armpits are they not?

If not, could you please post a photo? :D

Skahtboi Wed Apr 01, 2009 02:09pm

This is one that I thought about doing just last night, but my partner encouraged me not to.

This was a big cross town rivalry type game. Some guy in the bleachers had his tired old line of "Come on, ump, you are controlling the game."

I so badly wanted to walk over to him and say, "Thank you sir, for recognizing the efforts of myself and my partner in doing an otherwise thankless job. I really do appreciate you letting these naysayers around you know exactly what our job is, to control the game. You sir, are truly a rare gem."

My partner threatened to leave the field if I did say that to him. ;)


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