Anyone got a decoder ring????

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

As far as the "alphabet soup" goes, some of these organizations sprung up and spun off from other organizations. For example, my understanding of the origins of USSSA was that it was a group from ASA that decided they wanted to do things their way.

USSSA started out as the United States Slo-Pitch Softball Association. It was, in fact, a group of individuals who wanted to change up the SP game, speed up play, and allow for more liberal pitching rules. One of their big selling points in the 70's has now been adopted by ASA, the 3-2 count. (Three balls for a walk and two strikes and you are out.)

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

USSSA started out as the United States Slo-Pitch Softball Association. It was, in fact, a group of individuals who wanted to change up the SP game, speed up play, and allow for more liberal pitching rules. One of their big selling points in the 70's has now been adopted by ASA, the 3-2 count. (Three balls for a walk and two strikes and you are out.)

Ah yes... I remember U-Trip back in the mid-90s, back when its rules were still very similar to ASA's. The wording was fairly different, but the effects of the rules were almost identical.

The information I mentioned came straight from the person who got me into U-Trip. I only called this person's games and tourneys as a favor, later finding out that this person was relatively high up within the hierarchy of USSSA.

I won't go into all the strange love/hate relationship stories between U-Trip and ASA.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

USSSA started out as the United States Slo-Pitch Softball Association. It was, in fact, a group of individuals who wanted to change up the SP game, speed up play, and allow for more liberal pitching rules. One of their big selling points in the 70's has now been adopted by ASA, the 3-2 count. (Three balls for a walk and two strikes and you are out.)

That is NOT what ASA adopted.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by SRW

That is NOT what ASA adopted.

I can state for a fact that this statement is correct.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by SRW

That is NOT what ASA adopted.

Not having my rule book with me, and not calling SP, I guess I am mistaken then. I thought that ASA adopted a rule this year where essentially a batter starts out with the 1-1 count in SP.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Not having my rule book with me, and not calling SP, I guess I am mistaken then. I thought that ASA adopted a rule this year where essentially a batter starts out with the 1-1 count in SP.

I think they were making the point that this differs from 3 balls = BOB and 2 strikes =SO.

It is still 3 strikes (catch the ball) and yer out, like the song (almost) says.

To me, the difference seems to be editorial only (don't need to adjust all the batter and batter-runner rules), rather than "real" in how the game is played.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

Not having my rule book with me, and not calling SP, I guess I am mistaken then. I thought that ASA adopted a rule this year where essentially a batter starts out with the 1-1 count in SP.

Tom is correct. And it only applies to adult SP excluding Masters, Seniors and for those who believe it is the same, 16" game.