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AtlUmpSteve Tue Mar 10, 2009 08:20pm

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Originally Posted by Dholloway1962 (Post 586979)
On a dead ball I say no, how can you award anything that occurs during a dead ball?

On the 2nd question I would say if there was some type of legitimate confusion based on a call that the umpire had to make (check swing for example) then I say you have nothing, especially if the runner takes off as you first mentioned. Rules allow an umpire to correct this.

You are off base with both of these comments.

After a foul ball, if the catcher retrieves it with no runners on base, throwing the ball to anyone other than the pitcher is an awarded ball; the rule says so.

On the second part, it frankly doesn't matter if the batter runs; the catcher may only legally play on a batter-runner. As to rules allowing an umpire correction, they ONLY apply if there was delayed or reversed call by an umpire; not if F2 was simply wrong, or confused by the batter (who is not a batter-runner by rule). Don't look to reverse calls or not apply the rules simply because the catcher was confused (or you don't agree with the rule).

IRISHMAFIA Tue Mar 10, 2009 11:18pm

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Originally Posted by greymule (Post 587221)
Thanks, tcblue13. This has been an edifying day.

The flag on the pickup trucks is actually the "Battle Flag of the Confederacy."

Well, yeah, to a point. There were so many Confederate flags and associated stories, sometimes it depends on who is telling a particular war story as to which one it was. Different variations of the Stars and Bars originated in different areas of VA from Tidewater to Piedmont regions of the state.

The most popular was usually associated with the ANV (Potomac). Problem is that many believe the Stars & Bars was and is the real and only flag of the CSA.

Skahtboi Wed Mar 11, 2009 09:05am

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 587250)
Well, yeah, to a point. There were so many Confederate flags and associated stories, sometimes it depends on who is telling a particular war story as to which one it was. Different variations of the Stars and Bars originated in different areas of VA from Tidewater to Piedmont regions of the state.

The most popular was usually associated with the ANV (Potomac). Problem is that many believe the Stars & Bars was and is the real and only flag of the CSA.


So...you have other hobbies besides umpiring and beer, I see! ;)

wadeintothem Wed Mar 11, 2009 09:34am

Are you sure they didnt just copy the Puerto Rican flag?

IRISHMAFIA Wed Mar 11, 2009 09:37am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 587302)
So...you have other hobbies besides umpiring and beer, I see! ;)

No, I lived in the deep South in the '70s and needed to do research so I could stay with the GOB.

Dakota Wed Mar 11, 2009 10:18am

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 587317)
Are you sure they didnt just copy the Puerto Rican flag?

Actually, they copied the flag of Scotland.


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