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[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

hrmmm looked thru the FED umpire manual.. I see zero reference to any positions called C1 or C2. anyone got a page number? but for clarity sake he was in c2 for a runner on 2nd.

Please note that I said "sometimes called", not that C1 and C2 are official designations. Many people have started to use that, rather than to have to clarify "in C behind the 'x' shoulder".

What we now know is that he wasn't in D, which (D) was the reason people questioned the original post. While he was slightly out of position, he wasn't as far out as originally stated.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Please note that I said "sometimes called", not that C1 and C2 are official designations. Many people have started to use that, rather than to have to clarify "in C behind the 'x' shoulder".

What we now know is that he wasn't in D, which (D) was the reason people questioned the original post. While he was slightly out of position, he wasn't as far out as originally stated.

No worries.... I understood just fine, I was just pressing the semantics. and I appreciate all of y'all patience.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Please note that I said "sometimes called", not that C1 and C2 are official designations. Many people have started to use that, rather than to have to clarify "in C behind the 'x' shoulder".

What we now know is that he wasn't in D, which (D) was the reason people questioned the original post. While he was slightly out of position, he wasn't as far out as originally stated.

An old post of mine:

If we are going to discuss positioning, can we use some common nomenclature to reduce the reading time and misreading:
A = outside 1st base line
B = between 1st and 2nd (B1 or B2, left or right of F4)
C = between 2nd and 3rd (C1 or C2, left or right of F6)
D = outside 3rd base line
C3 = occasionally for inside 3rd base line, right of F6 and F7
(not usually accepted)

I agree with and in fact preach adjusting position to various situations, especially the number of outs, getting the best look at pickoffs, where the fielders are, etc. Not necessarily everything suggested in this topic, but certainly the concept, remembering that angle is more important than distance.
1) The pickoff at 1st requires a closer look than the steal at 2nd.
2) I can read the runner at 1st quickly enough to use my headstart getting a good angle at 2nd.
3) With 2 outs, closer to 1st, again determined by where F6 is.
4) With runner at 3rd, closer to basepath to get pickoff angle.
5) Always moving toward the play, partly for better look, partly for selling.

I don't remember what "everything suggested in this topic" means.

[CajunNewBlue]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

An old post of mine:

If we are going to discuss positioning, can we use some common nomenclature to reduce the reading time and misreading:
A = outside 1st base line
B = between 1st and 2nd (B1 or B2, left or right of F4)
C = between 2nd and 3rd (C1 or C2, left or right of F6)
D = outside 3rd base line
C3 = occasionally for inside 3rd base line, right of F6 and F7
(not usually accepted)

I agree with and in fact preach adjusting position to various situations, especially the number of outs, getting the best look at pickoffs, where the fielders are, etc. Not necessarily everything suggested in this topic, but certainly the concept, remembering that angle is more important than distance.
1) The pickoff at 1st requires a closer look than the steal at 2nd.
2) I can read the runner at 1st quickly enough to use my headstart getting a good angle at 2nd.
3) With 2 outs, closer to 1st, again determined by where F6 is.
4) With runner at 3rd, closer to basepath to get pickoff angle.
5) Always moving toward the play, partly for better look, partly for selling.

I don't remember what "everything suggested in this topic" means.

I agree.... lets do it y'alls way... its way more complicated.

[IamMatt]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

Did a little scrimmage last night (great fun) and during the Varsity game, batter gets contacted by her hit ball whilst still in the batter box. I call dead ball.. and WE ALL hear from the D position (with a runner on 2nd...yes we talked about this post-game) "foul ball!! ball hit the batter in the box".. mommy behind me says "where did he say it hit her?" sigh.
I know this is an old one, but damn.

First time I have heard, it, and that's funny!