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JefferMC Thu Dec 18, 2008 02:17pm

Cca / ncaa
 
Could you educate someone who doesn't have a clue as to the relationship between the NCAA and the CCA and why the NCAA would publish a rulebook, but the CCA would separatly publish an umpire's manual.

I could just barely make out the "Collegiate Commisioners Association" on the top of the book, and I googled that, so I now have some idea what the CCA is, but still not why the rules and umpire's manual aren't both best handled by the NCAA.

:confused:

IRISHMAFIA Thu Dec 18, 2008 03:27pm

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Originally Posted by JefferMC (Post 559427)
Could you educate someone who doesn't have a clue as to the relationship between the NCAA and the CCA and why the NCAA would publish a rulebook, but the CCA would separatly publish an umpire's manual.

I could just barely make out the "Collegiate Commisioners Association" on the top of the book, and I googled that, so I now have some idea what the CCA is, but still not why the rules and umpire's manual aren't both best handled by the NCAA.

:confused:

Just a guess, but probably partly because the NCAA does not do sports officials. Local umpire associations which meet particular standards contract with leagues, conferences, schools whichever the case may be, for providing qualified umpires to work their games.

topper Thu Dec 18, 2008 03:28pm

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Originally Posted by JefferMC (Post 559427)
Could you educate someone who doesn't have a clue as to the relationship between the NCAA and the CCA and why the NCAA would publish a rulebook, but the CCA would separatly publish an umpire's manual.

I could just barely make out the "Collegiate Commisioners Association" on the top of the book, and I googled that, so I now have some idea what the CCA is, but still not why the rules and umpire's manual aren't both best handled by the NCAA.

:confused:

Unlike ASA, the NCAA governs the game but not the officials. "NCAA" mechanics" is just the term for the mechanics set used to work collegate games and were not developed by the NCAA.

wadeintothem Thu Dec 18, 2008 09:43pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA (Post 559352)
From my experience with the change when ASA did this in SP, it is great for the umpire.

My question though, is it good for the game and what is expected of the umpires?

I think bloopers to short right with a play at 1B (with BU potentially in the way) and the few token IP's called from A do bear some consideration when discussing moving the BU to B to start with.

I would think better positioning on extra base hits and routine plays at 1b do in fact out weight that, but like I said, I wouldnt mind trying it on for size. Who knows, maybe next fall ball, when all the NCAA folks have worked it for a year and I have one of them for a partner, I will try it.

SRW Fri Dec 19, 2008 03:14pm

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Originally Posted by topper (Post 559458)
Unlike ASA, the NCAA governs the game but not the officials. "NCAA" mechanics" is just the term for the mechanics set used to work collegate games and were not developed by the NCAA.

... just like the relationship between MLB and WUA...

...well, kinda.


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