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AtlUmpSteve Wed Dec 17, 2008 01:14am

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Originally Posted by whiskers_ump (Post 558803)
Whitten? Guessing again

I'm thinking go even earlier; Russ's mentor, Billy P.

IRISHMAFIA Wed Dec 17, 2008 07:55am

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Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve (Post 558887)
I'm thinking go even earlier; Russ's mentor, Billy P.

Well, there is no doubt that Billy P certainly was one not afraid to shake things up when it came to mechanics

MNBlue Wed Dec 17, 2008 09:26am

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 558826)
I don't see any reason to take this tool away from the umpires.

You're assuming that calling IP's is something that is wanted of us. :confused:
Or, worse yet, that the umpires assigned actually will call them when thrown. :eek:

whiskers_ump Wed Dec 17, 2008 09:40am

I will leave it up to MNBlue to say who the person is, but not any we have
brought to surface.

Skahtboi Wed Dec 17, 2008 10:46am

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Originally Posted by MNBlue (Post 558923)
You're assuming that calling IP's is something that is wanted of us. :confused:
Or, worse yet, that the umpires assigned actually will call them when thrown. :eek:

Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing. :rolleyes:

IRISHMAFIA Wed Dec 17, 2008 12:39pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 558971)
Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing. :rolleyes:

Coaches ALWAYS want the IP called.............when it is the other team's pitcher :rolleyes:

whiskers_ump Wed Dec 17, 2008 01:40pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 558971)
Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing. :rolleyes:

Does NCAA still publish the Umpire Manual in Notebook style?

Thanks

Does ASA still publish the Umpire Clinic Guide as well as
the Case Book and are they available now?

Thanks

AtlUmpSteve Wed Dec 17, 2008 03:22pm

I purchased the NCAA Umpire manual from Referee.com, and brought it to my nearby Office Depot. For just over $3.00, they cut the binder and put a spiral bind on it, so now it is notebook style. They can also put a hard back cover and clear front protector; I just didn't do it this time (I did it last year, when I thought it was THE manual, not an annual reprint).

ASA now provides the Umpire Clinic Guide and Casebook on one CD; it's $15 at Officialgear.com. I do not believe they continue to make a printed version available.

Skahtboi Wed Dec 17, 2008 05:15pm

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Originally Posted by whiskers_ump (Post 559072)
Does NCAA still publish the Umpire Manual in Notebook style?

Thanks

No. They stopped that with the 2007 edition. If you want to see the new format, go to this thread and follow the link in the first post. http://forum.officiating.com/softbal...re-manual.html

whiskers_ump Wed Dec 17, 2008 06:38pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 559155)
No. They stopped that with the 2007 edition. If you want to see the new format, go to this thread and follow the link in the first post. http://forum.officiating.com/softbal...re-manual.html

Thanks, got my order in.

wadeintothem Thu Dec 18, 2008 09:07am

I think I like it, despite some of the negatives that have been pointed out. I'd have to give this one a try though, which I wouldnt mind doing.

IRISHMAFIA Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:04am

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Originally Posted by wadeintothem (Post 559276)
I think I like it, despite some of the negatives that have been pointed out. I'd have to give this one a try though, which I wouldnt mind doing.

From my experience with the change when ASA did this in SP, it is great for the umpire.

My question though, is it good for the game and what is expected of the umpires?

whiskers_ump Thu Dec 18, 2008 11:54am

Quote Mike: My question though, is it good for the game and what is expected of the umpires?

To get the call right?:eek:

MichaelVA2000 Thu Dec 18, 2008 01:34pm

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Originally Posted by Skahtboi (Post 558971)
Sadly, you are correct. I do expect all to want the rules enforced and the enforcers to actually do the enforcing. :rolleyes:

Is that like: Enforcing needs to be done by the enforcer so the required enforcement has been accomplished by the enforcer.:rolleyes:

MNBlue Thu Dec 18, 2008 01:39pm

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Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000 (Post 559400)
Is that like: Enforcing needs to be done by the enforcer so the required enforcement has been accomplished by the enforcer.:rolleyes:

Are you a lawyer? :confused:


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