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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 08:37am
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More rules I have learned from coaches.

Picked up some more rules addendums this weekend while working a "B" tournament.

Did you know that if the runner continues from one base to the next, without ever stopping or even hesitating, and the pitcher merely holds the ball while standing the circle, never making or faking a play, then you have to call the runner out? "Its in the book."

Also, when the BR is running in fair territory, and the ball takes a large bounce (about 12 ft in the air) and then hits her on the helmet, you cannot call the runner out because she "couldn't see the ball to avoid it."

Just doing my best to help prevent any of you from making these obvious mistakes.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 09:40am
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Hey, Skahtboi, thanks for the heads up! I would have missed both those calls, but I'll get them right the next time.

Allow me to return the favor. Here's one a coach taught me last year.

If a pitcher doesn't start her pitch preliminaries with the hands seaprated, it is an illegal pitch (that one sounds kind of familiar). Now, if she starts her motion to pitch, but stops it mid-delivery (recacting to, oh, I don't know, maybe the umpire yelling, "Illegal Pitch!") then she has committed a SECOND illegal pitch!

Award any base runners TWO bases as a penalty for the TWO illegal pitches! (He didn't tell me if you also award two balls to the batter, but it sounds logical.)
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 10:12am
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(He didn't tell me if you also award two balls to the batter, but it sounds logical.)
But of course you would!
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 11:28am
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(He didn't tell me if you also award two balls to the batter, but it sounds logical.)

Well, if you got two balls on the batter, ............
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 11:34am
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Well, if you got two balls on the batter, ............
Then you're not working the slot correctly?
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 11:19am
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Well, if you got two balls on the batter, ............
In a GIRLS' game?

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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 11:37am
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MEN's fastpitch and slowpitch aren't played by men then I take it?

Excuse me, I need to get back to watching the baseball forum burn down.
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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 02:44pm
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Excuse me, I need to get back to watching the baseball forum burn down.
What, again? Which troll is back with a new name now?

UPDATE: Never mind...I missed the good parts. And they had enough fun without any trolls.

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Old Thu Oct 30, 2008, 11:48am
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About 30 years ago, I was PU for a LA City HS Varsity game. Home team is in the field. IFR situation. Looping fly ball beyond reach of F4. No call, runners advance. HT coach tries to convince me that the IFR is to protect the infielders, not the runners.

And his team was the LA City AAAA Champs.

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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 11:39am
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Hey, Skahtboi, thanks for the heads up! I would have missed both those calls, but I'll get them right the next time.

Allow me to return the favor. Here's one a coach taught me last year.

If a pitcher doesn't start her pitch preliminaries with the hands seaprated, it is an illegal pitch (that one sounds kind of familiar). Now, if she starts her motion to pitch, but stops it mid-delivery (recacting to, oh, I don't know, maybe the umpire yelling, "Illegal Pitch!") then she has committed a SECOND illegal pitch!

Award any base runners TWO bases as a penalty for the TWO illegal pitches! (He didn't tell me if you also award two balls to the batter, but it sounds logical.)
I was working a tournament in Kitchener Ont in 06, girls 16 & under, a team from Ohio, I think their team name was Ohio Blast or something along those lines, the other team was a local team from Markam Ont. After 2 warnings I had called an Illeagal pitch against the Ohio pitcher.
Between innings the Ohio coach came out to where I was standing. I was standing on the first base line and the first base ump had was just about to make a comment when the coach arrived so he let the coach procede.
The weekend before this tournament they were in one in Quebec, they were playing a team from Hull Quebec when the same call had been made. The Hull coach had came out to argue that indeed there was 2 infractions and wanted 2 awards on the same infraction. What the other infraction was was never mentioned but apparently this other coach was quite upset he couldn't get the 2nd award. The coach from Ohio said it was quite commical.
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 11:42am
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So, give him the 2nd.....award him the parking lot!
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 12:50pm
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Then you're not working the slot correctly?
Man I dang near sprayed coffee on my screen. I've got to quit reading this stuff at work.

Did you know that if a runner going from 2nd to 3rd is hit in the back with a thrown ball, they are out for interference?
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Did you know that if a runner going from 2nd to 3rd is hit in the back with a thrown ball, they are out for interference?
Yeah. I have already had that coach before!!!
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Old Mon Oct 27, 2008, 03:43pm
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Man I dang near sprayed coffee on my screen. I've got to quit reading this stuff at work.
Yeah, that one was a doozy, wasn't it?
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Old Fri Oct 31, 2008, 01:00pm
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According to a coach:

Did you know that if a batted ball hits a runner after it passes an infielder other than the pitcher, the runner is still out even if the fielder had no opportunity for a play? Coach's reason for the out is because the runner should know better than to get hit by the batted ball.
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