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[topper]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

If it is a goal of an umpire to go higher; the pursuit of the higher levels of our hobby and passion requires resume building. Just like schools you attend where you actually pay to go; nationals is not all about "honor" of getting the assignment, but for resume building for future assignments.

Your are correct if you are building a resume' for future assignments withn ASA or ISF. I have not found that my ASA nationals resume', or lack thereof, has affected any of my regular or post season assingments at the collegate level.

It's really about each official's individual goals.

I am certainly not the only official I know with this opinion and feel that ASA could attract more high level officials who, while they work ASA ball, aren't necessarily motivated by the "honor" of working or moving up within ASA if the compensation were more in line with the importance of the games.

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by topper

Your are correct if you are building a resume' for future assignments withn ASA or ISF. I have not found that my ASA nationals resume', or lack thereof, has affected any of my regular or post season assingments at the collegate level.

And why should it? They are not the same organization.

It's really about each official's individual goals.

very true.

I am certainly not the only official I know with this opinion and feel that ASA could attract more high level officials who, while they work ASA ball, aren't necessarily motivated by the "honor" of working or moving up within ASA if the compensation were more in line with the importance of the games.

I'm not so sure ASA needs that official. For what? Many college umpires are more impressed with themselves than they are impressive on the field.

Some are good, some are not. I dont think the college umpires that begrudgingly come slithering to ASA when they run out of NCAA assignments then whimper all day about how per diem is better in NCAA than a whole days worth of games in ASA, bore us with lame war stories, while doing a half assed poor job, because its not NCAA, hold very much value to ASA.

I would put them at the bottom of any list of umpire. They are the worst to work around.

Then there are the other type of umpires. Those that put umpiring first. They transition easily between NCAA and ASA and excel at both. They are teachers and good umpires. You can learn a lot from them.

It is about choice, and I respect that. The first type - "NCAA come to ASA and whine" can simply go away. No hard feelings, ASA was here before them and will be here after they. They are not needed.

[topper]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

I'm not so sure ASA needs that official. For what? Many college umpires are more impressed with themselves than they are impressive on the field.

Some are good, some are not. I dont think the college umpires that begrudgingly come slithering to ASA when they run out of NCAA assignments then whimper all day about how per diem is better in NCAA than a whole days worth of games in ASA, bore us with lame war stories, while doing a half assed poor job, because its not NCAA, hold very much value to ASA.

I would put them at the bottom of any list of umpire. They are the worst to work around.

Wow! Sorry to here about the college guys in your area. This is not the case in my area. Except the part about the lame war stories. Although I hear just as many youth ball stories as college stories so I guess ASA only guys can be just as boring / annoying as those that call both.