Kind of a funny steal situation

[SRW]

Originally Posted by youngump

That's the way I was taught ...

Oh no it wasn't. Guaranteed Tim and I didn't teach that one.

Originally Posted by youngump

It's in the book that way too.

What page is that mechanic on?

[IRISHMAFIA]

I have absolutely no problem with the MECHANIC (not a signal) of pointing to the play, announcing what you saw and then making the appropriate call with corresponding signal.

However, if you are going to raise both arms and make a sweeping motion away from the play, IMO, you should be on a football field.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by SRW

Oh no it wasn't. Guaranteed Tim and I didn't teach that one. What page is that mechanic on?

Not only did you both teach me that one, Randy gave me a suggestion to use it more in mechanics practice at the gym with both of you watching.

As for where it is, I don't have my 08 rulebook within reach, but it's on page 233 in the 07 book.

To be clear though, Mick's second signal is not a correct mechanic. Only the first one which is the one you taught. Though I don't imagine it'd cause any actual confusion were I to use it, I suppose I'll have to focus on clearing it out of my repertoire.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by youngump

Not only did you both teach me that one, Randy gave me a suggestion to use it more in mechanics practice at the gym with both of you watching.

As for where it is, I don't have my 08 rulebook within reach, but it's on page 233 in the 07 book.

I guarantee you that no one is referring to the "point".

To be clear though, Mick's second signal is not a correct mechanic. Only the first one which is the one you taught. Though I don't imagine it'd cause any actual confusion were I to use it,

You are correct, no one would be confused. There may, however, be a few who would consider this showboating for an umpire.

[youngump]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I guarantee you that no one is referring to the "point".

You are correct, no one would be confused. There may, however, be a few who would consider this showboating for an umpire.

Well, what am I chopped liver? I was referring to the point. Though not entirely as I kind of lumped all those techniques together. (Which is the cause of my lack of adroitness in describing this. In my defense, it's definitely the one in the OP.)

So am I safe in understanding that no one cares if I give the point-off-the-bag signal? I definitely don't want to blame SRW for teaching anything but the point. I have however seen many umpires make more demonstrative signals and personally I think it makes the sell a little easier. Doesn't all selling look like showboating?

Is there anybody who thinks that the demonstrative signal is better?
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[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by youngump

Well, what am I chopped liver?

Since I was referencing YOUR post and subsequent responses, I didn't think it would be necessary to exclude you from my statement. Apparently, I was mistaken.

I was referring to the point.

I don't believe anyone else was as that is a standard MECHANIC, not a SIGNAL.

I have however seen many umpires make more demonstrative signals and personally I think it makes the sell a little easier. Doesn't all selling look like showboating?

Look at it this way. Do you sell ball calls with demonstrative signals to make it "easier"? Do you sell a foul ball with the demonstrative signals to make it is "easier"? Trust me, you can make all the movements you want, if someone disagrees with you, that "signal" isn't going to make anything different or easier.

[outathm]

How about we actually call what happened? No tag means safe, unless your in CA for a gold tourney?