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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 07:56am
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On TV you could see on reply it was obviously CO.. That call was kicked.

So.. is the ISF rule about ITB different than ASA? Michelle smith said last out over and over and over....
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 08:01am
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So.. is the ISF rule about ITB different than ASA? Michelle smith said last out over and over and over....
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 08:02am
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If you watch on the web you don't have the "advantage" of the expert commentary...
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 08:07am
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On TV you could see on reply it was obviously CO.. That call was kicked.

So.. is the ISF rule about ITB different than ASA? Michelle smith said last out over and over and over....
No, they are the same. Michelle Smith may be able to play softball, but when it comes to rules knowledge, she is ignorant.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 09:35am
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No, they are the same. Michelle Smith may be able to play softball, but when it comes to rules knowledge, she is ignorant.
without exageration, she said it about 20 times.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 10:25am
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On TV you could see on replay it was obviously CO.. That call was kicked.

So.. is the ISF rule about ITB different than ASA? Michelle Smith said last out over and over and over....
There is no difference in the rule or application. However, ISF uses the "Tie-Breaker" rule, often called the ITB, because they govern international play. ASA uses the "Tie-Breaker Rule", which, to be completely accurate, is the ASA Tie-Breaker Rule. Most people call all tiebreaker rules ITB (all facial tissues are kleenex, etc.), but, only the ISF rule is technically the ITB.

The ISF rule is:
Sec. 6. TIE-BREAKER.
Starting with the top of the eighth inning, and each half inning thereafter, the offensive team shall begin its turn at bat with the player who is scheduled to bat ninth (9th in FP), tenth (10th in SP, 11th in SP with an EP, or 12th in Co-ed SP with EP’s) in that respective half-inning being placed on second base. The player who is running can be substituted in accordance with the substitution rules.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 10:34am
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While quoting ISF rules, I went ahead and copied the foreign substance rule. Just like everyone OTHER than NCAA (well ASA and NFHS), it only says to wipe after going to the mouth.

Sec. 5. FOREIGN SUBSTANCE.
a. No member of the defensive team shall, at any time during the game, be permitted to use any foreign substance on the ball. A pitcher who licks his fingers must wipe off his fingers before making contact with the ball.
NOTE: If any defensive team member continues to place a foreign substance on the ball, the pitcher shall be ejected from the game.
b. Applying resin to the ball, or into the glove and then placing the ball in the glove, is an illegal act. Resin must be kept on the ground behind the pitcher’s plate when not in use.
c. Under the supervision and control of the umpire, powdered resin may be used to dry the hands.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 06:12pm
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I wonder if Bustos has an endorsement contract for that Sprite she is drinking...
Not if it's diet sprite!
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 07:49pm
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There is no difference in the rule or application. However, ISF uses the "Tie-Breaker" rule, often called the ITB, because they govern international play. ASA uses the "Tie-Breaker Rule", which, to be completely accurate, is the ASA Tie-Breaker Rule. Most people call all tiebreaker rules ITB (all facial tissues are kleenex, etc.), but, only the ISF rule is technically the ITB.
well as long as the rule is the same, i'm not into semantic word games some umpires love. Thats like sniveling when someone calls an indicator a clicker.
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Old Wed Aug 20, 2008, 10:49pm
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Thats like sniveling when someone calls an indicator a clicker.
If you went to parochial school, you would understand.
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