Why folks who don't umpire shouldn't write rules.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Linknblue

I was under the impression it was ASA (Insurance and all that) from the folks putting on the tourney. The assigning group was not.

PLEASE NOTE: I am just passing on information, not making any claims, threats or trying to mislead anyone as to their personal situation.

I would be very careful with this. When a claim is made to Bollinger, it must be signed by the Commissioner. A good commissioner is going to contact the State/Metro UIC to get confirmation of the injury/claim. If the assignment was done outside the local ASA organization and those folks are not aware of it, there "could" be an issue of coverage.

I can tell you that we are so small, getting this information around here is quite easy when necessary. However, I make it quite clear who can assign umpires to an ASA event. If they get a call from someone else, it is not an ASA event and as an umpire, they are on their own.

A few years ago we had an issue in this area where a local youth organization contracted the local ASA umpire assn to provide umpires for what was said to be an ASA tournament. The assignor did not check with anyone to verify ASA sanctioning and assigned the tournament. Not until the scores appeared in the Sunday sports section of the local paper did anyone realize the tournament was qualifier for another sanctioning organization.

As much as no one in softball wants to see any umpire get jammed up, you cannot expect the state/metro officials to fudge/misrepresent/lie on insurance claim forms. This is part of the business end of umpiring and something an umpire must understand no matter for whom they are working.

[Dakota]

If you call for multiple sanctions, make sure you are not relying on any one sanction for your insurance.

NASO provides insurance that crosses sanctioning boundaries. I don't know if they use Bollinger or not. I'm not a NASO member.

NFHS insurance (also Bollinger) covers you for all non-professional sports that are a high school sport in your state (assuming your state is an NFHS state).

[Linknblue]

Thanks for the extra poop on ASA, sanctioning and insurance. Appreciate it. Now I know.

Out of curosity, if someone gets hurt at a game (not a bat issue) what liability would an umpire have?

As an umpire, my coverage is for me isn't it? I twist a knee and have to HMO of my own and need medical help is what mine would cover, right? (within dollar limits of coverage). What does the insurance cover for the assignor?

[Dakota]

It also includes liability insurance. Since I have medical from work, it is the liability insurance that is most important to me.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Linknblue

Thanks for the extra poop on ASA, sanctioning and insurance. Appreciate it. Now I know.

Out of curosity, if someone gets hurt at a game (not a bat issue) what liability would an umpire have?

Only as much as some ambulance-chasing hack can dream up and sell to a judge and jury