When do you call an Illegal pitch?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by BuggBob

The not illegal pitch camp said the pitch does not start until the hands separate, the pitcher could have corrected her error by stepping off the plate. But by me calling the pitch illegal she did not have that opportunity.

Bugg

I am in this camp. It is not yet an illegal pitch, because the pitcher can legally disengage prior to separating her hands, thus prior to starting the pitch. This is the one and only action that she can do to avoid the illegal pitch; once she separates, starting a pitch, it is THEN an illegal pitch.

I have been told that at least one ASA NUS member (WS) has said otherwise, but see no backing in the rule book, RS, manual, casebook, or official ruling from OKC.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

I have been told that at least one ASA NUS member (WS) ...

Would that be Walt, Walt, or Wild?

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by SRW

Would that be Walt, Walt, or Wild?

Does it help to know that the one I am referring to is quoted as making this statement in a Texas setting?

I may be paranoid, but prefer that I not be naming names that can be Googled.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Does it help to know that the one I am referring to is quoted as making this statement in a Texas setting?

I may be paranoid, but prefer that I not be naming names that can be Googled.

Take it from someone who knows about that, good move.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Take it from someone who knows about that, good move.

Damn... I made y'all paranoid, didn't I?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Damn... I made y'all paranoid, didn't I?

No, I have already had more discussions with OKC folks and associated staff than I care to.

[ronald]

Caebook that i got in January 2003, which I think is for 2002 but could be for 2003.

play 6f.1-3 (fp)

May the pitcher take his pitching wtith his hands already together?

Ruling: No. The pitchers (sic) hands must be apart when he steps onto the pitcher's plate and while taking the signal. An illegal pitch should be called [B]as soon as this occurs. [B] (6f-1b).

all the above may have changed but giving some info from asa.