Signals from the coach

[CajunNewBlue]

simple question..... Is there a rule that prohibits the pitcher from getting the signals from the coach and not the catcher....

(yes, I know the pitcher must pause and get or "simulate" getting signs from the catcher as part of her pitch per some rule sets.)
Thanks in advance.

[Texasbock]

Yes. Furthermore, the pitcher is not allowed to ever look in the coach's direction.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CajunNewBlue

simple question..... Is there a rule that prohibits the pitcher from getting the signals from the coach and not the catcher....

(yes, I know the pitcher must pause and get or "simulate" getting signs from the catcher as part of her pitch per some rule sets.)
Thanks in advance.

The pitcher can take her signals from her grandmother selling hot dogs in the concession stand if she wants.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

The pitcher can take her signals from her grandmother selling hot dogs in the concession stand if she wants.

IrishMafia:

You are absolutely correct, as long as she does take a signal or simulate taking a signal from the catcher after engaging the pitcher's plate. The sad part about this rule is that it is the same in baseball and you would be suprised how many baseball umpires will call a balk on a pitcher for taking signals while off the rubber. The pitcher is standing there off the rubber, looks into the cather and BOOM!! Balk!!

Umpires need to remember that the pitching rules do not take effect until the pitcher is in contact with the pitcher's plate.

MTD, Sr.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

IrishMafia:

You are absolutely correct, as long as she does take a signal or simulate taking a signal from the catcher after engaging the pitcher's plate. MTD, Sr.

Speaking ASA

Not really. The pitcher can assimilate or take their signal from anyone, there is no mention of the catcher at all in the rule.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Speaking ASA

Not really. The pitcher can assimilate or take their signal from anyone, there is no mention of the catcher at all in the rule.

I stand corrected, but real problem is the far too many umpires that think that taking signals off the pitcher's plate is an IP (softball) or a BALK (baseball) is troubling. Not taking or simulating taking signals while in contact with the pitcher's plate is a quick pitch infraction of the rules which has its own specific penalty.

MTD, Sr.

[snorman75]

While BU I take the sign from the coach too. LOL

[outathm]

When I played ball, a million years ago, one of the charts we kept on the bench was a sign chart on the other teams' base coach. From this I ahve gotten into (or not out of) the habit of looking at the base coach. About the third inning of any game I am usually clued into when a team has a dteal on and it has been a great help. Of course I can't be certain unless I have a team a number of times in the season.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by outathm

When I played ball, a million years ago, one of the charts we kept on the bench was a sign chart on the other teams' base coach. From this I ahve gotten into (or not out of) the habit of looking at the base coach. About the third inning of any game I am usually clued into when a team has a dteal on and it has been a great help. Of course I can't be certain unless I have a team a number of times in the season.

Spelling forgiven, that's a great point. (One or three less mega-mug Killians at dinner could resolve the spelling issue.)

Another thing that the BU can do is discreatly talk with the F6 in situations where there are runners at first and third about any plays the defense may have if R2 boogies down to second.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Spelling forgiven, that's a great point. (One or three less mega-mug Killians at dinner could resolve the spelling issue.)

Another thing that the BU can do is discreatly talk with the F6 in situations where there are runners at first and third about any plays the defense may have if R2 boogies down to second.

MichaelVA2000:

Why are you talking to F6 and what could you possibly be telling him?

MTD, Sr.

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

Another thing that the BU can do is discreatly talk with the F6 in situations where there are runners at first and third about any plays the defense may have if R2 boogies down to second.

I hope that is a joke.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

MichaelVA2000:

Why are you talking to F6 and what could you possibly be telling him?

MTD, Sr.

I wouldn't be telling F6 anything. My question would be about any plays the defense may have if R2 boogies down to second. Sometimes players share the information sometimes they don't.

It's certainly not information I would share with their opponent.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by MichaelVA2000

I wouldn't be telling F6 anything. My question would be about any plays the defense may have if R2 boogies down to second. Sometimes players share the information sometimes they don't.

It's certainly not information I would share with their opponent.

Michael:

I have spent about six hours in the hot sun today watching my sons' baseball team play a DH, so please forgive me if I don't understand, but were you joking instead of being serious?

MTD, Sr.

[snorman75]

Not a total joke. When BU I play close to f4. I might ask her "your throw?" So I can plan my path to 2nd on a steal. That is if they are not using basic open close mouth sign.

But ask f6 what a 1st and 3rd play, never. Plus you should be able to figure it out with their first move, if not form the number call. "Run 14" and F6 is #14.

I know when I did slow pitch and was the BU inside I always made sure who had the come backer from the pitched to 2nd.

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

Michael:

I have spent about six hours in the hot sun today watching my sons' baseball team play a DH, so please forgive me if I don't understand, but were you joking instead of being serious?

MTD, Sr.

Joking I was just messing with outathm a little bit. We did a tournament together this weekend. My fault for not including the smilies earlier, but I was waiting for some response from him first.