Never saw this before....

[Dholloway1962]

I think you just have a foul ball.

[mick]

Now, I ask, what is this purpose of the defined foul tip except to allow a runner to attempt an advance without re-touching after the catch?
The play seems to me to be a caught foul ball, by all definitions, eventhough it is not a foul tip.

[greymule]

The play seems to me to be a caught foul ball, by all definitions, even though it is not a foul tip.

Think about it. Batter swings and there's an audible "tick" but no perceptible deflection or slowing of the ball. The ball travels straight back to the catcher's chest protector and bounces off. The catcher then grabs the ball in the air with his bare hand and secures it.

How can this be anything other than merely a foul ball?

[Dholloway1962]

RS 22..not a catch if the ball rebounds off the cather, unless first touched by the cather's glove/mitt/hand. Must be a "perceptible arc" to be able to be determined as a caught foul ball.

[robbie]

In NSA, clearly a foul ball (no catch).

"A batted ball that travels directly from the bat not higher than the batter's head to any part of the catcher's body or equipment other than the hand(s) or glove/mit is a foul ball is dead and is not a foul tip"

Furthermore............

"A batted ball that goes higher than the batter's head is a foul ball. It is not a foul tip. If legally caught, the batter is out."

NSA often leaves gray areas gray, but I think this one is pretty clearly spelled out.

By the way - For those wanting a catch out - Think of this....... You are saying that with less than 2 strikes, a tipped ball back to the catcher that is cought by the glove is only a strike, but if cought by the body, we have an out. Not logical.

[mick]

Originally Posted by robbie

In NSA, clearly a foul ball (no catch).

"A batted ball that travels directly from the bat not higher than the batter's head to any part of the catcher's body or equipment other than the hand(s) or glove/mit is a foul ball is dead and is not a foul tip"

Furthermore............

"A batted ball that goes higher than the batter's head is a foul ball. It is not a foul tip. If legally caught, the batter is out."

NSA often leaves gray areas gray, but I think this one is pretty clearly spelled out.

By the way - For those wanting a catch out - Think of this....... You are saying that with less than 2 strikes, a tipped ball back to the catcher that is cought by the glove is only a strike, but if cought by the body, we have an out. Not logical.

Okay! Thanks. I don't get out much.

[NM FP Ump]

PU's call was right, foul ball. This can't be a foul tip because it did not go directly to the catcher's mitt/hand; it went to the catcher's equipment (assuming she had shin guards over her knees).