A weird weekend for weird plays...

[SRW]

Had several rules I had enforced this weekend that don't normally come up frequently...

In one ASA JO FP game Saturday:
- Rule 3-4 : Pitcher with black Mizuno glove with yellow stitching.
- Rule 6FP-3I: Same pitcher stepping outside the 24" length of the PP.
- Rule 6FP-7B: Pitch comes in for strike, 0-2, F2 throws to F3. Ball 1, count's now 1-2.
- Rule 6FP-10E: First base coach emphatically calls Time about 3 times as F1 goes into motion.
- Rule 6FP-11: High windup, ball slips to center field. No one on base though.
- Rule 8-7J(1): Typical runner interference on a GB to F4 for the 3rd out.

And in a CoEd SP game on Sunday:
- Rule 8-5F(1) Team A is kicking the $chitt out of Team B by about 20 or 25 runs. Bottom of the 5th inning, all Team A needs is 3 outs to go home. First batter up pops up to F4 - he shows off and catches the ball in his hat. Dead ball, give the batter 3B.

Just kinda odd that they all happened to me all within two days of games ...

[Chess Ref]

I was under the impression the Mizuno glove,with yellow stitching, was legal......

I am more than willing to be corrected on this though....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I was under the impression the Mizuno glove,with yellow stitching, was legal......

Common sense would make one think is should be, but it is not by rule.

[DaveASA/FED]

Well it is not as it is off the shelf, now with a little Sharpie work that glove is just fine

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Common sense would make one think is should be, but it is not by rule.

Would you say that is what the rule actually states? I don't think so.

I would say it is not by official interpretation of the rule.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve

Would you say that is what the rule actually states? I don't think so.

"The Pitcher's glove may be of one solid color or multicolored as long as the color(s) are not the color of the ball being used in the game."

I would say it is not by official interpretation of the rule.

Well, according to the June clarifications, it is. I am assuming that the "yellow" on the glove is the same color as the ball, not just any shade of yellow.

Please note, I'm not saying I agree with it, just the way it seems ASA supervisor wants it.

[NYBLUE]

2008 NCAA Rules (Page 50)

The catcher may wear a leather glove or leather mitt of any dimension.
Gloves/mitts worn by players may not be the color of the ball but may be
any combination of other colors. The pitcher’s glove may be tan, brown, grey
or black, or any combination of those colors. Glove lacing may be any color
other than that of the ball.

EFFECT — If noticed before a play, the umpire shall direct
the fielder to remove the glove/mitt. Should the illegal glove/
mitt reappear, the offending player shall be ejected.
If a play is made with the illegal glove/mitt, the offensive coach
has the choice of taking the result of the play or having the play
nullified. If nullified, the batter returns to bat, runners return
to the bases occupied at the time of the last pitch and play is
resumed.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

"The Pitcher's glove may be of one solid color or multicolored as long as the color(s) are not the color of the ball being used in the game."



Well, according to the June clarifications, it is. I am assuming that the "yellow" on the glove is the same color as the ball, not just any shade of yellow.

Please note, I'm not saying I agree with it, just the way it seems ASA supervisor wants it.

What I'm saying is that the Mizuno glove is a black glove with yellow logo and markings. That is different from saying it is a black and yellow glove, like the Jenny Finch glove is black and pink. No part of the body of the glove is yellow; it is black with a very minor yellow marking.

Take, as a point of comparison, the ASA powder blue uniform shirt. Would you not agree that it is powder blue? Or would you say it is multicolored, because it has about 1% navy blue in the ASA logo and trim, and 0.5% white trim? KR is saying that glove is multicolored, despite the multiple efforts to match interpretations with NCAA and NFHS, both of which more clearly state that the color of a glove does NOT include logo's, laces, or other minor markings.

So, again, I say that is the interpretation, but not necessarily what the rule actually says. Not the first or only time; I have always questioned how running/crashing into a player not making a play can also be interference, when every other interpretation of interference makes it clear there must be a play to be interfered with. USC, sure; interference, only because they say so.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Common sense would make one think is should be, but it is not by rule.

Depends on sanction & jurisdiction.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

Depends on sanction & jurisdiction.

From OP:

In one ASA JO FP game Saturday:
- Rule 3-4 : Pitcher with black Mizuno glove with yellow stitching.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

From OP:

In one ASA JO FP game Saturday:
- Rule 3-4 : Pitcher with black Mizuno glove with yellow stitching.

I know, but we do have wider participation to educate and AUS said "KR is saying that glove is multicolored, despite the multiple efforts to match interpretations with NCAA and NFHS, both of which more clearly state that the color of a glove does NOT include logo's, laces, or other minor markings."

[JefferMC]

Originally Posted by SRW

- Rule 6FP-7B: Pitch comes in for strike, 0-2, F2 throws to F3. Ball 1, count's now 1-2.

I'm confused

Originally Posted by ASARulebook

[6FP-7B:] The catcher shall return the ball directly to the pitcher after each pitch, except after a strikeout,

Uh... wasn't that a strikeout?

[whiskers_ump]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

I'm confused

Uh... wasn't that a strikeout?

Jeff Poster stated pitch came in for a strike 0-2, Not that the count at
the time was 0-2., so now a ball is awarded to batter.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

I'm confused

Uh... wasn't that a strikeout?

We started with 0-1. The pitch was thrown for a strike. Now we're at 0-2. Then F2 threw to F3. Now we're at 1-2.

[JefferMC]

Originally Posted by SRW

We started with 0-1. The pitch was thrown for a strike. Now we're at 0-2. Then F2 threw to F3. Now we're at 1-2.

Oh.