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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 09:11am
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High School Pay

Ok this isn't about how much do you get paid for HS games but instead about how do you get paid for HS games.

Here in Iowa 4A is the largest class and seems to be the hardest to get paid by. The smaller schools (3A, 2A and 1A) normally have a check waiting for you when you get there, but when is comes to the 4A schools (CIML) it take 3 to 5 weeks to get paid.

I just don't get it. Yes I understand that there is a little bit of a longer paper shuffle in the bigger schools but it should not take 5 weeks to get paid for a softball game.

How do you guys and gals in the other area of the country get paid?
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 09:29am
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Every game but 2 (and sectionals) I had checks there waiting on me. 1 of those games the AD decided to raise the rates to match some other schools in the area so he was reissuing checks for us, got it in the mail 2 days later. and the other one there was a mix up and softball checks went to the track meet. Got that one either the next day or 2 days later. And I umpired a little over 50 HS games mostly 3A to 4A schools.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 09:39am
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Usually around every 2 weeks a check comes. Maybe 3. I've never seen 5 weeks.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 10:13am
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Our umpire association handles the financials with the schools, and we as umpires only deal with the umpire association for pay. We can request draws once a month (twice if absolutely necessary) If we don't reqquest draws, then the money sits on the books until our two mandatory payouts - August and November.

It's really nice when you get your November check and you have that surge of holiday money to go spend.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 10:18am
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Our umpire association handles the financials with the schools, and we as umpires only deal with the umpire association for pay. We can request draws once a month (twice if absolutely necessary) If we don't reqquest draws, then the money sits on the books until our two mandatory payouts - August and November.

It's really nice when you get your November check and you have that surge of holiday money to go spend.
So the association gets all the interest?

I don't think so! Draw, or reach for the sky.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 10:21am
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So the association gets all the interest?

I don't think so! Draw, or reach for the sky.
I agree "Its my money and I want it now."
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 10:27am
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So the association gets all the interest?
Well, I agree... but in reality, the schools don't send payment to the association until about a month or two into the season (monthly billing)... so technically there's very little cash flow on the association's end right away - no money coming in from the schools regularly. Those of us who "need" the money can ask for it and there's reserve in the association's accounts to cover those few people. But those who don't "need" the money right away, and don't really care about a few bucks of interest usually just let it sit and wait until the mandatory paydates.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 12:20pm
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I work for several different associations and receive a check about a month after the last HS games are played. Starting this year, one of the associations has begun using RefPay. My debit card arrived in the mail on Saturday.
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 11:26pm
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I work for several different associations and receive a check about a month after the last HS games are played. Starting this year, one of the associations has begun using RefPay. My debit card arrived in the mail on Saturday.
I've never heard of RefPay. Can you elaborate on what it is and how it functions? Thanks!
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Old Mon Jun 16, 2008, 11:31pm
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Here in NY, the individual school districts pay the officials by check through the mail. Most arrive within 2-3 weeks. Some arrive sooner. Private schools are more rapid with payment relative to the public districts. However, there are a few schools who have taken up to 8 weeks or more to send payments out.

Basically, officials complete their vouchers at the game site, the coach signs them at some point and hands them to the AD's office. The AD must sign the form and, in the case with most districts, the payment must be approved at a school board meeting which is convienently held once a month in most districts.
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Old Tue Jun 17, 2008, 06:57am
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My umpire association pays us every two weeks throughout the season for games we have worked. They give us the option of asking to be paid on a different schedule, as long as it is not a shorter time period. At least one guy asks to be paid at the end of the year in a lump sum, which he uses for a vacation.

When I am doing a game a high school game that I have scheduled myself, every school I have worked at has given me a check in advance. When I am doing travel ball games during the summer, I have always been paid at the end of the game(s).

It's the same for me during the volleyball season. I schedule all my matches myself, and I always get a check before I even walk through the gym doors. I guess I'm pretty lucky!
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Old Tue Jun 17, 2008, 09:50am
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Boy, I guess we have it good here in the Land of Enchantment. The schools pay the New Mexico Activities Association before the season even starts. The NMAA pays the respective official's associations. We hand in invoices for the games we officiate at our weekly Monday meetings, and get paid every two weeks. Some officials just keep their invoices until the end of the season and get one check after the season ends.

The larger public schools are the best at paying and the smaller schools have to be reminded, and reminded, and reminded. The missing paychecks around here are usually for pre-season scrimmage games. I don't know why the schools are delinquent when it comes to scrimmage games. I called 4 scrimmage games in April and was only paid for 2; oh well...
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Old Tue Jun 17, 2008, 03:16pm
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Here in NY, the individual school districts pay the officials by check through the mail. Most arrive within 2-3 weeks. Some arrive sooner. Private schools are more rapid with payment relative to the public districts. However, there are a few schools who have taken up to 8 weeks or more to send payments out.

Basically, officials complete their vouchers at the game site, the coach signs them at some point and hands them to the AD's office. The AD must sign the form and, in the case with most districts, the payment must be approved at a school board meeting which is convienently held once a month in most districts.
Maybe in your section of New York, but here in the Hudson Valley, there is a school group called BOCES , which is for all the local schools pooling resources of tech training, supplies and other services...including athletics. They handle all the scheduling of games, and we submit to them (usually electronically) a voucher at the end of each month, with a check about two weeks or so later...
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Old Tue Jun 17, 2008, 03:39pm
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Maybe in your section of New York, but here in the Hudson Valley, there is a school group called BOCES , which is for all the local schools pooling resources of tech training, supplies and other services...including athletics. They handle all the scheduling of games, and we submit to them (usually electronically) a voucher at the end of each month, with a check about two weeks or so later...
I'm not surprised. In NY, I beleive each Section has its own contract/agreement with the sports offiicals. All the schools within that Section handle payments in the same manner. Other Sections may or may not do it differently.
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Old Tue Jun 17, 2008, 01:51pm
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I've never heard of RefPay. Can you elaborate on what it is and how it functions? Thanks!
Try this link: http://www.thearbiter.net/groups/fil...icialguide.doc
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