What iffy play

[youngump]

(Actually, rather literally a dream play, since I was in fact dreaming when I saw this and probably never will.)

So, in my sitch, the pitcher gets the ball back with runners on 2 and 3 and 2 is off the base. She freezes and then moves toward third. The pitcher without making a play realizes the runner is committed to third and just stands there. Pretty soon we have two runners on third, and I'm trying to figure out what to do. Then one steps off. I call her out. The coach comes out to argue and I wake up.

But it of course got me thinking, is the runner at 3rd considered off her base once the runner from 2nd gets there? Or vice versa? Can they both be stopped there until the pitcher makes a play? What if the pitcher decides to get set to pitch?

Thoughts?
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[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by youngump

(Actually, rather literally a dream play, since I was in fact dreaming when I saw this and probably never will.)

So, in my sitch, the pitcher gets the ball back with runners on 2 and 3 and 2 is off the base. She freezes and then moves toward second. The pitcher without making a play realizes the runner is committed to third and just stands there. Pretty soon we have two runners on third, and I'm trying to figure out what to do. Then one steps off. I call her out. The coach comes out to argue and I wake up.

But it of course got me thinking, is the runner at 3rd considered off her base once the runner from 2nd gets there? Or vice versa? Can they both be stopped there until the pitcher makes a play? What if the pitcher decides to get set to pitch?

Thoughts?

Unless forced by a walk, award or a batted ball, the runner who already occupies third is the only person who has the right to it. An out can be recorded when both runners are standing on third by merely tagging the runner who came there from second.

However, from reading your post, it sounds like you should have a LBR violation before the runner from second ever made it to third. You said she froze, then moved back to second, and then on to third. She should be out.

[greymule]

If you legitimately end up with 2 runners on a base (could happen) and the pitcher keeps the ball in the circle without making a play, you call time and send the following runner back.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by youngump

...I was in fact dreaming when I saw this...

Thoughts?

You definitely need some help with your fantasy life...

[youngump]

I meant she headed to third, edited the sitch.
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[youngump]

Originally Posted by greymule

If you legitimately end up with 2 runners on a base (could happen) and the pitcher keeps the ball in the circle without making a play, you call time and send the following runner back.

Thanks, and what rule do I use to back that up.
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[hoyer]

I'd wait until the defense had the presence of mind to tag the second runner out.

[celebur]

Originally Posted by Dakota

You definitely need some help with your fantasy life...

I think he forgot to mention that the players were hot babes in short shorts and that the coach likes to argue up close and very personal. . .

Originally Posted by hoyer

I'd wait until the defense had the presence of mind to tag the second runner out.

But what if they don't? The OP even asks:

Originally Posted by youngump

What if the pitcher decides to get set to pitch?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by celebur

I think he forgot to mention that the players were hot babes in short shorts and that the coach likes to argue up close and very personal. . .

Nope, Dakota's just right.
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[celebur]

Originally Posted by youngump

Nope, Dakota's just right.

Then you defintely do need help with your fantasy life!

[MichaelVA2000]

Originally Posted by youngump

(Actually, rather literally a dream play, since I was in fact dreaming when I saw this and probably never will.)

So, in my sitch, the pitcher gets the ball back with runners on 2 and 3 and 2 is off the base. She freezes and then moves toward third. The pitcher without making a play realizes the runner is committed to third and just stands there. Pretty soon we have two runners on third, and I'm trying to figure out what to do. Then one steps off. I call her out. The coach comes out to argue and I wake up.

But it of course got me thinking, is the runner at 3rd considered off her base once the runner from 2nd gets there? Or vice versa? Can they both be stopped there until the pitcher makes a play? What if the pitcher decides to get set to pitch?

Thoughts?

Bang both of them out. It's a dream! When the coach comes out to argue, shoot the coach with your pistol which all umpires have in dream scenarios.

[greymule]

Thanks, and what rule do I use to back that up?

I don't think it's in the ASA book in black and white. I asked that question a few years ago at clinic, and that's the answer I got (send the following runner back).

You might make a case for "two runners cannot occupy a base," but I think that's weak.

I did have that play happen, though. Two runners on 2B, and the pitcher ready to pitch. Needless to say, you won't see this at higher levels.

[JefferMC]

Just hold the pitcher from pitching until someone figures this out?

[youngump]

Originally Posted by JefferMC

Just hold the pitcher from pitching until someone figures this out?

How, by calling time? Once I call time, it's too late. I don't think I can hold the pitcher up with the ball live.
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[Rachel]

As the plate umpire would you get set with two runners on a base? I think I would just be in my holding zone until someone on the defense did something. The play is not over.

Another way to look at this would be that the runner from 2nd is not legally entitled to 3rd as it is occupied. She is stopped so LBR could be called.