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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 10:57am
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Bang both of them out. It's a dream! When the coach comes out to argue, shoot the coach with your pistol which all umpires have in dream scenarios.
haha then get in your delaurian (back to the future car) get up to 88 mph and WHAM your in 1955!!!
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 11:29am
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...Another way to look at this would be that the runner from 2nd is not legally entitled to 3rd as it is occupied. She is stopped so LBR could be called.
I've heard that argument made before, but I think it is questionable at best (actually, I think it is incorrect, speaking ASA).

First, 8-3-E says the second runner (the one not entitled to the base) "may be put out by being tagged..." It says nothing about any other way of being put out.

Second, the LBR speaks of the runner being "off a base", or of advancing to the next base or retreating to the previous base. I maintain that if the runner is in contact with a base (any base), the runner cannot be ruled out for a LBR violation. She may be in jeopardy of being put out for other things (occupying a base to which she is not entitled, force out, etc.), but not LBR.

Strangely, in NFHS, after a period of inactivity with no attempt to retire the runner, the umpire is to declare the ball dead and rule the runner out. See case play 8.3.3 SITUATION B.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 01:11pm
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Strangely, in NFHS, after a period of inactivity with no attempt to retire the runner, the umpire is to declare the ball dead and rule the runner out. See case play 8.3.3 SITUATION B.
How long would you wait? How about, ball back to pitcher and held, runners not giving in, coaches silent (sorry, not directing runner to do anything useful), plus a couple seconds?
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 01:13pm
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haha then get in your delaurian (back to the future car) get up to 88 mph and WHAM your in 1955!!!
Ummmm, wouldn't that make it a blast to the past?
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 01:27pm
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haha then get in your delaurian (back to the future car) get up to 88 mph and WHAM your in 1955!!!
Oh, the travesty!


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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 02:28pm
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Official ASA Interpretation:

In this situation, when it is apparent that the pitcher is not going to make a play and the runner isn't leaving the base, the umpire is to call "Time" and return the trailing runner to the base previously touched.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 06:23pm
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Ummmm, wouldn't that make it a blast to the past?
or a dream bc delaurian's are extinct.... but just in case one surfaces ... get in the batmobile...
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 09:54am
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or a dream bc delaurian's are extinct.... but just in case one surfaces ... get in the batmobile...
There's actually one in this area that I see a guy driving to work almost every morning.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 09:56am
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or a dream bc delaurian's are extinct.... but just in case one surfaces ... get in the batmobile...
Did you follow that link that celebur posted? Not only are DeLoreans apparently live and well as collectors' cars, but it is possible to have one built. Consider this line from the article; "one can buy De Loreans built from the ground up using a combination of new, original and reproduction parts for US$42,500." Also it points out that 6,500 of the original 9,000 built are still on the road. Furthermore, it states that there is a possibility that, due to the demand for the DMC-12, DMC could get back into producing new model cars. Sounds far from "extinct" to me.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 10:01am
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There's actually one in this area that I see a guy driving to work almost every morning.
There are a couple in my area, and the community I live in has a population of less that 55,000. (Heck, there is barely 100,000 in the entire county, which is 979 sq miles in area.)
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 10:05am
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Did you follow that link that celebur posted? Not only are DeLoreans apparently live and well as collectors' cars, but it is possible to have one built. Consider this line from the article; "one can buy De Loreans built from the ground up using a combination of new, original and reproduction parts for US$42,500." Also it points out that 6,500 of the original 9,000 built are still on the road. Furthermore, it states that there is a possibility that, due to the demand for the DMC-12, DMC could get back into producing new model cars. Sounds far from "extinct" to me.
Yeah, I heard about that. I forget where that company is, but they bought up all the old DeLorean stock parts. They have enough original parts to make a significant number of complete original DeLoreans, and can also fabricate more parts to make a more-or-less "hybrid" of new/original DeLoreans.
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2008, 05:46pm
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There's actually one in this area that I see a guy driving to work almost every morning.
What part of Gotham City are you from?
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Old Sun Jun 15, 2008, 08:39pm
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What part of Gotham City are you from?
North side.

But seriously, I used to see him every morning, at least until I moved to the other side of town.

Didn't see the flux capacitor, though.
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