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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 09:11am
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Dakota,
You are correct, it is the league and not our umpire assoc. Sorry for the confusion.

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"Second comment"
Again your opinion, but coaches and parents all sign off on it before hand. Just like anything else, you wanna play with their ball, it's their rules...

"Fixed"
First, it didn't need to be fixed, second, we have over 160 teams,
20+ complexes spread out over 5 counties. Each complex has a commissioner, but they are not at every game.

For the record, since implemented I have only had to warn 3 coaches, and they were all for coaching a batter or pitcher from the backstop and they were distracting the players more than they were helping.

Thanks for your comments
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 09:20am
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... unsportsmanlike conduct (like yelling swing) coming from the stands .....
yelling 'swing' is unsportsmanlike conduct ???

really?
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 10:32am
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I don't care what specs behind the backstop do unless they:
1. Direct negative comments towards me or about the strike zone.
I had a similar situation at a tournament once.

Some dad parked his chair directly behind me and started in on the strike zone from the first pitch. After about an inning and a half, I walked back to the backstop and said:

"You know, my a$$ is 44 inches wide and the plate is only 17; how can you even see the strike zone from there?"

Didn't hear much more from that guy.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 10:59am
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I had a similar situation at a tournament once.

Some dad parked his chair directly behind me and started in on the strike zone from the first pitch. After about an inning and a half, I walked back to the backstop and said:

"You know, my a$$ is 44 inches wide and the plate is only 17; how can you even see the strike zone from there?"

Didn't hear much more from that guy.
But its jst some dad ... who cares... if he is inciting the other fans or the girls get the director and have him removed....simple as that who cares what he says about your strike zone.. if he says nice things are you going to turn around and thank him?
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 11:58am
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yelling 'swing' is unsportsmanlike conduct ???

really?

Yeah. By the very same organizations/people who think that "Rollin' rollin' rollin', the pitcher's goin' bowlin', so get those worms some helmets!" is USC.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 02:14pm
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I had a similar situation at a tournament once.

Some dad parked his chair directly behind me and started in on the strike zone from the first pitch. After about an inning and a half, I walked back to the backstop and said:

"You know, my a$$ is 44 inches wide and the plate is only 17; how can you even see the strike zone from there?"

Didn't hear much more from that guy.
I liked the way you handled it. Nice!
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 02:18pm
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yelling 'swing' is unsportsmanlike conduct ???

really?
Not from the spectators. A player or coach, yep
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 05:32pm
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Not from the spectators. A player or coach, yep
so if some 7-8 yr olds are doing the old "hey batter-batter, hey batter-batter --- swing" ... you make 'em stop? really?
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 06:51pm
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so if some 7-8 yr olds are doing the old "hey batter-batter, hey batter-batter --- swing" ... you make 'em stop? really?
To start, I don't believe games with 7-8 yr olds should need umpires, but if umpires are assigned to officiate the game, then yeah, absolutely.
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Old Fri Jun 13, 2008, 08:59pm
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Sorry, but with all the nightmarish chanting, horrible songs, bs, foot stomping, fence shaking, and yelling going on.. I am not stopping "hey batta batta swing".

Not gonna do it. Thats absurd.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 06:27am
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our local ASA league uses 1 ump for 7-8 .... and i'm not stopping "hey batta batta swing" either and I have never come across an umpire that did

really? you'd make 'em shut up?
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 10:38am
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our local ASA league uses 1 ump for 7-8 .... and i'm not stopping "hey batta batta swing" either and I have never come across an umpire that did

really? you'd make 'em shut up?
As previously stated, if they want an umpire for the purpose of officiating the game properly, yes.

The cheers, chants and all the rest of the gibberish that comes from the dugout are words of support for THEIR OWN TEAM. Screaming at the batter or opponent is, IMJ, unsportsmanlike conduct and should be stopped. And yes, I will also stop chants directed at an opponent.

I'm not talking about ejecting anyone. Just telling the players to keep their comments to and about their own team. Coaches, by rule, already have this restriction placed upon them, so I don't see the problem with holding the players to a comparable standard.

Would you permit it to occur at the 16U or 18U level? Would you permit it is AA ball?
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 10:48am
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MIKE..I couldnt disgaree with you more....as long as it is not profane in nature...WHY would you care..chants against the other team have been going on forever. for someone with such a sensible attitude towards spectators..this one puzzles me

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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 11:53am
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MIKE..I couldnt disgaree with you more....as long as it is not profane in nature...WHY would you care..chants against the other team have been going on forever. for someone with such a sensible attitude towards spectators..this one puzzles me
Darrell,

If you go back through the thread, you will realize that I am not referring to spectators, but players and coaches.

Negative chants directed at the opponent are not acceptable and you will have a coach in your face especially if the chant is targeting a specific player.
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Old Sat Jun 14, 2008, 01:58pm
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Darrell,

If you go back through the thread, you will realize that I am not referring to spectators, but players and coaches.

Negative chants directed at the opponent are not acceptable and you will have a coach in your face especially if the chant is targeting a specific player.

I read it...I DISAGREE........unless the chant is vulgar,racial, or obscene...who cares.....? When did this start? and how (speaking ASA) do you support it? There are SO many J.O. chants that involve a player or the other team.....why would you WANT to police that...theres enough going on ON the field to worry about...

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