When are they out?

[DaveASA/FED]

I agree with you but how do you know? If you are PU you are watching the runner and F2 for possible OBS, trying to watch the play at 2nd some but you don't know when the tag it made, you can hear when the out is called....never thought of this before but how do you know when that happens? If BU is doing what they should they are inside on a throw from outfield watching the tag so they can't see if the runner has hit the plate yet, and PU is blocked from the tag by the BU, BR and maybe even a couple of fielders.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

I agree with you but how do you know? If you are PU you are watching the runner and F2 for possible OBS, trying to watch the play at 2nd some but you don't know when the tag it made, you can hear when the out is called....never thought of this before but how do you know when that happens? If BU is doing what they should they are inside on a throw from outfield watching the tag so they can't see if the runner has hit the plate yet, and PU is blocked from the tag by the BU, BR and maybe even a couple of fielders.

I think you are worrying too much about this. It isn't like you are a hundred yards away, the field isn't that big.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

I think you are worrying too much about this. It isn't like you are a hundred yards away, the field isn't that big.

Agreed. HP to 2B is what? 91', 11"? It's not that far for us to make a reasonable judgment call.

[argodad]

Originally Posted by NCASAUmp

Agreed. HP to 2B is what? 91', 11"? It's not that far for us to make a reasonable judgment call.

Only for you 65' base slow pitch people. On a 60' diamond, it's even closer.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by argodad

Only for you 65' base slow pitch people. On a 60' diamond, it's even closer.

Yeah, but if that's the longest distance, you see where I'm going with that.

And that's the only HP to 2B distance I can remember without looking up.

[NYBLUE]

There is a signal (2 fingers across the wrist) that I assumed most of umpires used to indicate runner(s) in scoring position with 2 outs.
Recieving and mirroring this signal prior to the pitch or AB reminds:
- The BU to vocalize his out immediately when the tag occurs
- The PU to listen for the BU's out while watching the runner attempting to score.

Do many of you know of and/or use this signal?

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by NYBLUE

There is a signal (2 fingers across the wrist) that I assumed most of umpires used to indicate runner(s) in scoring position with 2 outs.
Recieving and mirroring this signal prior to the pitch or AB reminds:
- The BU to vocalize his out immediately when the tag occurs
- The PU to listen for the BU's out while watching the runner attempting to score.

Do many of you know of and/or use this signal?

I am aware of it, but don't use it. I do not consider it necessary. I also do not rely on sound. The mechanic is unreliable and cannot replace watching the play.

[DeputyUICHousto]

Originally Posted by NYBLUE

There is a signal (2 fingers across the wrist) that I assumed most of umpires used to indicate runner(s) in scoring position with 2 outs.
Recieving and mirroring this signal prior to the pitch or AB reminds:
- The BU to vocalize his out immediately when the tag occurs
- The PU to listen for the BU's out while watching the runner attempting to score.

Do many of you know of and/or use this signal?

I've never seen or heard of this "two finger across the wrist". It isn't in any umpire manual I've ever seen.