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Old Mon May 05, 2008, 07:51am
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Did you miss the call? Yes, but you fixed it.

Should you have held up the pitcher? No way, the batter was being a jerk.

Should you have sworn? No, but it worked to calm the situation. You were there and you used your judgement and it worked. Now if it had not worked you just gave the players a tool to use against you. "the umpire swore at us and it made the situation worse" or something like that.
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Old Mon May 05, 2008, 09:39am
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SP for softball umpires here on L.I. NY is what pays the bills. FP is what I enjoy doing but SP can be blood money (literally ) if you let the inmates get out of control. Good job going down to help your partner. I've worked with some other blues who would be 1/2 way to the parking lot.
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Old Mon May 05, 2008, 09:42am
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SP for softball umpires here on L.I. NY is what pays the bills. FP is what I enjoy doing but SP can be blood money (literally ) if you let the inmates get out of control. Good job going down to help your partner. I've worked with some other blues who would be 1/2 way to the parking lot.
Hey, LIIRISHMAN, let me private message you. Got a question I don't want to post online.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Mon May 05, 2008, 10:23am
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Should you have held up the pitcher? No way, the batter was being a jerk.
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Jerk or not, you don't allow a pitcher to throw the ball prior to the batter being ready. Too many things can go wrong, including injury, to allow this to happen.

The umpire has a tool to use in this situation. If the batter refuses to get ready, 10 seconds, strike. S/He'll get ready, or have another strike by the time s/he realizes arguing is senseless.

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Old Mon May 05, 2008, 04:20pm
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I don't do softball anymore, but when I did, I don't recall a ceiling that prevented a pitch from going over 12 feet (or whatever it is now) out there. By this, I mean, its a judgment call and if it took you an extra half second to make that judgment call, so be it. It isn't easy; you don't want to call what's not there nor do you want to miss one that is. Some of those illegal pitches are, well, maybe.

I used to get griped out by batters who claimed I didn't call them fast enough and they'd swing.
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Old Mon May 05, 2008, 04:43pm
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I don't do softball anymore, but when I did, I don't recall a ceiling that prevented a pitch from going over 12 feet (or whatever it is now) out there. By this, I mean, its a judgment call and if it took you an extra half second to make that judgment call, so be it. It isn't easy; you don't want to call what's not there nor do you want to miss one that is. Some of those illegal pitches are, well, maybe.

I used to get griped out by batters who claimed I didn't call them fast enough and they'd swing.
Well, the flat ones are tougher to call right away, as you don't have as much time on a 12'+ pitch. I've found that the only times when I call the high ones late are either when they float or when I've lost my concentration. Otherwise, I usually have no problem calling it as best as possible.

Back to the sitch, if I've got a batter staring me down while in the box, my next words are, "here we go. [slight pause] Play." He's now been told I'm not going to play his silly game of a staring contest, and I've indicated to him that we are to continue playing ball. If he ignores my direction and somehow, by some STRANGE stroke of luck, gets injured, that's his own fault. If I'm asked by a lawyer what happened, I'll simply tell them, "hey, I gave him enough time to turn around before I resumed play, and he didn't turn."
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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