What's the call?

[GDW]

I was watching a game last week. BR hits ball to the fence. Catcher (appropriately) positions herself slightly in front of home plate and just inside the 3rd base line.

As BR comes in home, catcher is carried backwards into base line to catch a high throw and couldn't see runner. Runner was so close and the play so fast that they crashed.

Catcher drops ball and runner goes down injured. PU counted run but I'm not sure exactly what his call was.

What is the correct call here?

[SRW]

What ruleset?

[GDW]

ASA. 12-under Rec.

[charliej47]

Trainwreck

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Trainwreck

Meaning "nothing happened." Run counts.

[GDW]

Based on what rule interpretation? I'm not questioning your response, I just want know exactly in case I'm behind the plate when it happens again.

Thanks.

[Andy]

Originally Posted by charliej47

Trainwreck

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that there is no such thing as a trainwreck any more in ASA ball. The only exception is the bunted ball in front of the plate and the RH batter and F2 collide as they are both doing what they are expected to do.

It's either obstruction or interference...so my question would be - did the catcher have the ball at the time of the collision?

[SRW]

HTBT. Probably OBS. If the 12U BR can hit to the fence, I'm more than likely gonna give her HP, not send her back to 3B.

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by Andy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that there is no such thing as a trainwreck any more in ASA ball. The only exception is the bunted ball in front of the plate and the RH batter and F2 collide as they are both doing what they are expected to do.

It's either obstruction or interference...so my question would be - did the catcher have the ball at the time of the collision?

ASA rules supplement 13 F and G talk about this. Yes the wreck is still alive.

Paragraph F: When a defensive player is fielding a thrown ball and the flight of the ball carries or draws them into the path of the base runner, it is not a crash.

Paragraph G: When the ball, runner, and defensive player arrive at the same time and place, and contact is made, the umpire should no invoke crash rule, interference or obstruction It is a incidental contact (a.k.a. wreck)

EDIT: I posted this at same time as SRW so it is doubled up

[SRW]

Originally Posted by Andy

Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding is that there is no such thing as a trainwreck any more in ASA ball. The only exception is the bunted ball in front of the plate and the RH batter and F2 collide as they are both doing what they are expected to do.

It's either obstruction or interference...so my question would be - did the catcher have the ball at the time of the collision?

R/S 13-F:

When a defensive player is fielding a thrown ball and the flight of the ball carries or draws them into the path of the base runner, it is not a crash.

R/S 13-G

When the ball, runner and the defensive player arrive at the same time and place, and contact is made, the umpire should not invoke the crash rule, interference, or obstruction. This is merely incidental contact, or
what some persons commonly call, “a wreck.”

Hence my HTBT decision.