NCAA 3 Person Mechanics

[bkbjones]

In any ASA I have done, if U1 or U3 go out, we revert to standard 2-man mechanics.

Scooby, for some reason I think maybe your partner hasn't read the NCAA Umpire Manual. Maybe that partner was too cheap to spend the $10?

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by bkbjones

Scooby, for some reason I think maybe your partner hasn't read the NCAA Umpire Manual. Maybe that partner was too cheap to spend the $10?

Wow! That's half the price that I paid for mine!!!!

[DaveASA/FED]

Dholloway1962,
Not sure which NUS you attended this year, but I also went to one and the one I attended made the messages clear, 1) this is BU's call by the book, and 2) if you deviate you communicate. It was mentioned that this deviation occurres several times in a lot of crews, especially depending on the situation (speed of U3 vs speed of play quick scoop and throw) BUT it was made VERY clear that if you as PU are going to take that call in an ASA game you better call U3 off early and you better darn well be there to make it!!

Scooby,
Any chance this was just a cool way for that umpire to ensure himself that you knew that was your call??? I have asked umpires that I have not worked with a lot that type of question before and it was more of a discussion starting point to ensure they knew that was their call (not this specific situation but others) It can bring out an issue before it happens and make sure everyone is on the same page. One thing that might help is telling your partner "yep thats mine all day just like the book says" not being a smarta$$ but ensuring him that you have read the book and know wtf you are doing! Again not saying this was the case, maybe he was thinking ASA, nobody but him knows for sure, but just an alternative look at what might have been going on.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Just out of curiosity, what happens if PU gets tangled up with catcher/bat/whatever, and isn't there to take the call? (speaking NCAA)

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Just out of curiosity, what happens if PU gets tangled up with catcher/bat/whatever, and isn't there to take the call? (speaking NCAA)

The same thing that would happen if the BU ran into F5 and fell on his face in ASA. There would be a communication between the two remaining umpires (I would hope), and the non-tangled umpire would make the call. In your case, the BU. In my case, the PU.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

The same thing that would happen if the BU ran into F5 and fell on his face in ASA. There would be a communication between the two remaining umpires (I would hope), and the non-tangled umpire would make the call. In your case, the BU. In my case, the PU.

You mean one remaining umpire as the third is going out on the fly ball (or it wouldn't be an issue).

[DaveASA/FED]

I think that is what Scott is saying there are two umpires to make the call at first (U3 and PU) if PU falls he is going to yell as he hits the dirt "O S^&T HELP" or something to that effect and U3 is going to say, "I got it clumbsy a$$" so the two remaining umpires are going to talk.

Or the old "your never through till you see another blue" will kick in and U3 will look for partner as they are going to 2nd, see him/her rolling on the ground, laugh a little bit and then proceed to cover first.

[bkbjones]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You mean one remaining umpire as the third is going out on the fly ball (or it wouldn't be an issue).

Just like the three-man mechanic we have all encountered...when both BUs go out as you holler "ONE MAN!"

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by DaveASA/FED

Dholloway1962,
Not sure which NUS you attended this year, but I also went to one and the one I attended made the messages clear, 1) this is BU's call by the book, and 2) if you deviate you communicate. It was mentioned that this deviation occurres several times in a lot of crews, especially depending on the situation (speed of U3 vs speed of play quick scoop and throw) BUT it was made VERY clear that if you as PU are going to take that call in an ASA game you better call U3 off early and you better darn well be there to make it!!

I finally got to talk to our regional UIC. In ASA it is the BU call. I stand corrected as I guess I misunderstood. Just wanted to clarify in case I led anyone astray.

[AtlUmpSteve]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, then you may want to suggest he check page 182 of the ASA book:

Calling an Infield Fly:

The plate umpire has the responsibility for judging and calling an infield fly. The infield fly is judged when the ball is at tits highest point. The plate umpire then verbalizes "Infield Fly" or if near a line, "Infield Fly, if fair".

Mike, I think you confused which thread you are in. This one is about who makes the call at first when U1 chases and no runners on.

[socalumps]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, then you may want to suggest he check page 182 of the ASA book:

Calling an Infield Fly:

The plate umpire has the responsibility for judging and calling an infield fly. The infield fly is judged when the ball is at tits highest point. The plate umpire then verbalizes "Infield Fly" or if near a line, "Infield Fly, if fair".

What?

[Dholloway1962]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, then you may want to suggest he check page 182 of the ASA book:

Calling an Infield Fly:

The plate umpire has the responsibility for judging and calling an infield fly. The infield fly is judged when the ball is at tits highest point. The plate umpire then verbalizes "Infield Fly" or if near a line, "Infield Fly, if fair".

I was talking about ASA 3 umpire system, no one on, 1B umpire chases...who has call at first

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by Dholloway1962

I was talking about ASA 3 umpire system, no one on, 1B umpire chases...who has call at first

No. Who is ON first.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

Well, then you may want to suggest he check page 182 of the ASA book:

Calling an Infield Fly:

The plate umpire has the responsibility for judging and calling an infield fly. The infield fly is judged when the ball is at tits highest point. The plate umpire then verbalizes "Infield Fly" or if near a line, "Infield Fly, if fair".

That must be for the Amazon Warrior division.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Who is setting me up here? I never posted that.

Or, at least I don't remember posting it.

Okay, okay. I was in the wrong thread. Late night fatigue.