Got anything #2

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by scroobs

It looks like the catcher gave the runner some of the back of the plate. The runner seems to be running to that area. Ball and runner are getting there at the same time from what i see. I'd have a train wreck, and a tag out in this situation. .

You're kidding, right? Since when did 'base availability' dictate the runner's path?

Not sure why the runner didn't slide to the back corner of the plate, but i assume that she didn't know that the ball was coming and didn't her direction from her coach to slide. I wouldn't be surprised what this umpire would call, but likely he would just call safe or out because he clearly looks clueless...

The runner doesn't have to slide and failure to do so is not reason to determine a safe/out call.

[CecilOne]

Looks like you mostly agree with what I said yesterday:
"(A) "picture doesn't show if the runner altered her stride ". If she did, clearly OBS.
(B) "hard to tell if there was a tag by F2 ". If so, and not (A), out."

What actually happened? Is it because of something we haven't seen?

[wadeintothem]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

The runner doesn't have to slide and failure to do so is not reason to determine a safe/out call.

The rule is clear on this.

If you run into a fielder and are not sliding, you are out.

If she doesnt slide, she can give up, go around, fly over, or any number of things.. running into the catcher is not one of them.

I know you know the rule mike, but I dont think you should use (not that you do) lawyerese bs about sliding to over look crashes. We all know why the rule is written the way it is, we dont need to put our head in the sand and pretend otherwise and use it to overlook legit crashes resulting from horrible baserunning technique.

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

The rule is clear on this.

If you run into a fielder and are not sliding, you are out.

That's not what the rules says.

[SRW]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

The rule is clear on this.

If you run into a fielder and are not sliding, you are out.

What rule is this again? Which book? I can't seem to find it...

[qcumpire]

[QUOTE=wadeintothem]The rule is clear on this.

If you run into a fielder and are not sliding, you are out.

If she doesnt slide, she can give up, go around, fly over, or any number of things.. running into the catcher is not one of them.



Ah...another of the great "Rule Myths".

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by wadeintothem

The rule is clear on this.

If you run into a fielder and are not sliding, you are out.

But the runner is not out for not sliding. The runner is out for crashing into the fielder.

If she doesnt slide, she can give up, go around, fly over, or any number of things.. running into the catcher is not one of them.

I know you know the rule mike, but I dont think you should use (not that you do) lawyerese bs about sliding to over look crashes.

Not possible. If the player is sliding, there cannot be a "crash".

We all know why the rule is written the way it is, we dont need to put our head in the sand and pretend otherwise and use it to overlook legit crashes resulting from horrible baserunning technique.

And I did that where?