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IRISHMAFIA Sun Jan 27, 2008 08:32pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve M
Mike,
As I stop and think - I know novel thought - the ball is live and the ruling makes sense and I have even made that call in the past. Dunno what I was thinking, but obviously it was soemthing else.

Must have been jet lag :rolleyes:

ukumpire Mon Jan 28, 2008 05:05am

Foul Tip / Catcher
 
ISF: Rule 1 ~ Definitions ~ 39 ~ Foul Tip
Sec. 39 FOUL TIP.

A foul tip is a batted ball which
a. Goes directly from the bat to the catcher's hands.
b. Goes not higher than the batter's head, and c. Is legally caught by the catcher.
NOTE: It is not a foul tip unless caught; and any foul tip that is caught is a strike. In Fast Pitch the ball is in play. It is not a catch if it is a rebound, unless the ball first touched the catcher's hand(s) or glove.

Okay so the play is Not a Foul Tip and cannot be a valid Catch after touching the Protector.

But it Remains Live (Although I have no Rule to back this up with!!

IRISHMAFIA Mon Jan 28, 2008 07:58am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukumpire
ISF: Rule 1 ~ Definitions ~ 39 ~ Foul Tip
Sec. 39 FOUL TIP.

A foul tip is a batted ball which
a. Goes directly from the bat to the catcher's hands.
b. Goes not higher than the batter's head, and c. Is legally caught by the catcher.
NOTE: It is not a foul tip unless caught; and any foul tip that is caught is a strike. In Fast Pitch the ball is in play. It is not a catch if it is a rebound, unless the ball first touched the catcher's hand(s) or glove.

Okay so the play is Not a Foul Tip and cannot be a valid Catch after touching the Protector.

But it Remains Live (Although I have no Rule to back this up with!!

Cannot be. If not a foul tip, it must be a foul ball and that cannot be a live ball.

However, the half of the sentence you did not highlight betrays your conclusion and reasoning.

ukumpire Mon Jan 28, 2008 09:02am

OOppss!
 
Yeah ofcourse you are right. Serves me for trying to reply at 08h00!! Foul Ball it is then

ukumpire Mon Jan 28, 2008 09:02am

OOppss!
 
Yeah ofcourse you are right. Serves me for trying to reply at 08h00!! Foul Ball it is then

Dakota Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:56am

Quote:

Originally Posted by ukumpire
ISF: Rule 1 ~ Definitions ~ 39 ~ Foul Tip
Sec. 39 FOUL TIP.

A foul tip is a batted ball which
a. Goes directly from the bat to the catcher's hands.
b. Goes not higher than the batter's head, and c. Is legally caught by the catcher.
NOTE: It is not a foul tip unless caught; and any foul tip that is caught is a strike. In Fast Pitch the ball is in play. It is not a catch if it is a rebound, unless the ball first touched the catcher's hand(s) or glove.

Okay so the play is Not a Foul Tip and cannot be a valid Catch after touching the Protector.

But it Remains Live (Although I have no Rule to back this up with!!

Note the word in red... ;)


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