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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 03:54pm
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Batted ball hits top of fence in the outfield. What's the call? Is it a homerun or just like a ball coming off of the green monster?

Batted ball stops in batter's box, do you draw your imaginary lines and determine if it is fair or foul?
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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 04:11pm
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Batted ball hits top of fence in the outfield. What's the call? Is it a homerun or just like a ball coming off of the green monster?

Batted ball stops in batter's box, do you draw your imaginary lines and determine if it is fair or foul?
1. Home run if it bounces over the fence after hitting the top of the fence.If the fence has a yellow border across the top it would be a HR if hitting the yellow as designated in the ground rules.

2. Take an imaginary line extending from both foul lines to the back tip of the plate.Within the lines,on the lines, or on the plate- fair ball.

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Old Tue Aug 14, 2007, 07:18pm
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Batted ball hits top of fence in the outfield. What's the call? Is it a homerun or just like a ball coming off of the green monster?
Speaking ASA

The ball is live until it actually contacts a part of the dead ball territory. So, if it contacts DBT, it is a home run (assuming fair ball), if not, it's still in play.

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Batted ball stops in batter's box, do you draw your imaginary lines and determine if it is fair or foul?
You better use your eyes and judgment, don't think you are going to have time to draw anything. Wouldn't do it if I did have time. Either it is in fair territory or not. The existence of the batter's box is irrelevant to the play at hand.
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Old Wed Aug 15, 2007, 09:07am
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okay....

so what if the fence is made of wood... the wood is weak, and the ball goes THROUGH the fence?

HR or 2B?
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Old Wed Aug 15, 2007, 09:23am
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okay....

so what if the fence is made of wood... the wood is weak, and the ball goes THROUGH the fence?

HR or 2B?
Did the ball leave the field of play? Yes ... so you have to award something.

Did the ball go over the home run fence? I'll leave the rest of this exercise to you. But don't "What-If" yourself to death here.

As an umpire, you would learn more if you come up with these bizarre scenarios, decide what you'd rule on the field, and then go find the rule that applies to see if you got it right. Posting TWP's here won't teach you much, other than specific answers to scenarios that would never happen.
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Old Wed Aug 15, 2007, 09:29am
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Not a what if... but a "it happened last week during league play."

official on the field ruled it a Ground Rule Double.


thanks for caring.
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Old Wed Aug 15, 2007, 09:34am
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Not a what if... but a "it happened last week during league play."
Sorry. Guess I got confused by your question, which started with "What if"... Sorry to think you might mean what you say. My bad.

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official on the field ruled it a Ground Rule Double.
Your point? I led you 90% of the way to the answer. You don't want to take that last step, it's not my problem.


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You're welcome. I thought I was being OVERLY patient with you. Next time I won't bother.
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Old Wed Aug 15, 2007, 01:02pm
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Not a what if... but a "it happened last week during league play."

official on the field ruled it a Ground Rule Double.


thanks for caring.
That would be the correct ruling.The play would be the same thing as a ball passing through a gap at the bottom of the fence and into DBT which in a lot of cases is common place on many fields.

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Old Wed Aug 15, 2007, 09:48pm
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Batted ball hits top of fence in the outfield. What's the call? Is it a homerun or just like a ball coming off of the green monster?

Batted ball stops in batter's box, do you draw your imaginary lines and determine if it is fair or foul?
These are pretty basic questions.

Have you read a rule book recently?

A ground rule defining the top of a fence as a home run would overrule the most common ruling that if the ball came back in the field of of play it would be all the runner could get.

A ball hit directly to the batter's box, without touching the batter, could be fair or foul, depending on where the ball was fielded by a defensive player.
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