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Mon Jan 14, 2002, 10:44pm
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Home team submits their lineup with the DP in the 9th position
and is the teams second pitcher. DEFO is the pitcher and in the tenth position. In the top of the 3rd inning, coach puts the DP in to pitch. fine In the bottom of the 3rd inning, the DP now pitching walks, coach ask for time, and sends in a courtsey runner for DP, which is now the pitcher. Legal ~ Illegal. glen
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Mon Jan 14, 2002, 10:55pm
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Glen,
Yes, it is legal to do that since the DP was the person who pitched last. It would not have been legal had the DEFO re-entered and batted for the DP(DP pitched last time in the field), because a team can only use a courtesy runner for the pitcher or catcher who fielded that position in the last inning. That's a twist on the DP/DEFO that we hadn't discussed. I see where y'all had a tournament recently - we've still got inches of snow here and it was close to 40 today. Oh well, got my first meeting for Fed ball in a couple of weeks and should start working out with the local college team a week after that (they ended up 4th in the WCWS last year & only lost 2 players).
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Mon Jan 14, 2002, 11:13pm
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Steve, Even though the DP is now in the pitching position, she is the still the DP correct? and is batting for the pitcher. So would Rule 8 Section 11 E. hold water in this case? Should one allow the CR since in reality the DP is Pitching but is still the DP. BTW, handed out 25 copies of your DP/DEFO Comments. All that received them thought that your article should be exactly how it should be printed in the rule book. They all thought it was a great article. glen
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glen _______________________________ "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover." --Mark Twain.
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Tue Jan 15, 2002, 05:31am
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Glen,
Go ahead and allow that - Case book play 8-11-6 alludes to that situation. 8.6.E prevents using a courtesy runner for the DP when it's the DEFO who is pitching or catching. When the DEFO leaves the game and the DP is the pitcher or catcher, it's OK to use a courtesy runner.
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Tue Jan 15, 2002, 06:50am
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Steve,
Many thanks. That is what I did ~ but the opposing coach put the doubt in my mind with his statement, that the DP was always the DP no matter what. Feel much better about it now. Again Thanks. glen
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