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bkbjones Tue Jul 10, 2007 05:06pm

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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA
Gotcha! ...........................

LOL

1. Not speaking for Bob, but I think he was likely doing ASA. NFHS has been over since May.

2. I darn near tossed a girl for a slide on Sunday during our Seattle Tacoma Championships (ASA). The feet of the girl sliding were no more than six inches above the ground if that. There was a force at the plate and the runner was out, literally, by well over six feet. (No I did not have a measuring tape or anything else.) She slid into the catcher's feet/ankles and the catcher went a$$ over teakettle. It required a snap judgement...and I made a snap judgement she didn't interfere...but it was damn close. I don't know that (in ASA) a slide at the knees would be any worse than a slide at the ankles or the feet or anywhere else.

As I've said before, I have worked with Bob on several occasions. Bob and I have seen each other at our best and not at our best. But in the OP, I will support his judgement all the way.

OK. Now I have to go take a shower with my Pomeranian, then go do Extremely Rec Co-ed. Last one of these I did, I ejected a pitcher.

IamMatt Wed Jul 11, 2007 01:07am

Couple of questions, please?

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Originally Posted by BuggBob
Battery hits a ball right back to the pitch

That sounded like a liner right back to F1, but since there was a play made at home AND attempted at 1B, I assume the hit was a grounder to F1?

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Originally Posted by BuggBob
the bat broke clean in two

What kind of bat was it? Wood I would expect, but do metal softball bats break in two like wood ones?

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Originally Posted by BuggBob
Quick throw to the plate for an out, catcher takes two steps to throw the ball to first, retired runner slides into catcher feet, throw goes askew.

If the runner had slid normally into home plate and had no opportunity to alter her slide in order to prevent a collision with F2 (bang-bang play), would it still have been interference? Did the fact that F2 took "2 steps" imply that either there was time enough to take 2 steps so there was time enough for the runner to alter her slide (therfore it was INT) or does the fact that F2 took 2 steps indicate that she was away from home plate and therefore if the runner slid into her it suggests she deliberately altered her slide in order to interfere with F2, therefore INT?

Thanks.

Dakota Wed Jul 11, 2007 08:15am

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
LOL

1. Not speaking for Bob, but I think he was likely doing ASA. NFHS has been over since May.

He did confirm ASA, but I'd point out the same rule exists in U-trip and PONY, both of which, I imagine, are still underway.

BuggBob Wed Jul 11, 2007 09:34am

The bat that broke was indeed some kind of metal bat. Before the game I had checked the bats on the other side while my partner check this side. He is very good, so I know the bat was legal and not altered.

NCASAUmp Wed Jul 11, 2007 09:42am

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Originally Posted by BuggBob
The bat that broke was indeed some kind of metal bat. Before the game I had checked the bats on the other side while my partner check this side. He is very good, so I know the bat was legal and not altered.

Well, it most certainly is altered now! ;)

A while back, I heard about a game at one of the local parks where I umpire where a bat broke open. When it did, sheets of sandpaper came out of the end. Umpires did nothing.

*shakes his head*

bkbjones Wed Jul 11, 2007 05:35pm

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Originally Posted by Dakota
He did confirm ASA, but I'd point out the same rule exists in U-trip and PONY, both of which, I imagine, are still underway.

And at what point did I say U-trip and PONY weren't underway?

Dakota Wed Jul 11, 2007 06:54pm

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Originally Posted by bkbjones
And at what point did I say U-trip and PONY weren't underway?

What I understood you to say was that he was most likely ASA since NFHS was over. I was only pointing out that just because NFHS was over did not mean he was not using a rule book that contained the cited definition of a legal and illegal slide. Not a big deal.


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