Do you just "take it"?

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

WOW, we all missed that it says BU, not PU. All of us assuming PU adds further credence to Mike's "don't respond".

I've been reading this as NC_Blue being the PU. Where are you getting BU from?

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

You don't respond. How the hell do you know what the PU saw?

Like this:

OP: Self, what did you see?"
OP: Well, I saw that it was high.
OP: Ok, then we'll tell him it was high.

OP does mention that he was the PU.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by CecilOne

WOW, we all missed that it says BU, not PU. All of us assuming PU adds further credence to Mike's "don't respond".

No, it doesn't. It quite clearly says that he was PU, and it's not been edited.

[NC_Blue]

You don't respond. How the hell do you know what the PU saw?

And if it was "high", why wasn't it called illegal?
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I called time because I had NO IDEA what he was going to say (actually I already had my hand up.....waiting for the next batter to get set in the box).

I didn't have a problem with him asking where the pitch was. I had a problem with his subsequent remark.

What was the proper response to a pitch that cleared (i.e. was above) the back shoulder?

I think it reads clearly that I was PU.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by NC_Blue

I called time because I had NO IDEA what he was going to say (actually I already had my hand up.....waiting for the next batter to get set in the box).

I didn't have a problem with him asking where the pitch was. I had a problem with his subsequent remark.

What was the proper response to a pitch that cleared (i.e. was above) the back shoulder?

I think it reads clearly that I was PU.

"A ball." That's all a non-pitcher/catcher/captain/coach needs to know.

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

No, it doesn't. It quite clearly says that he was PU, and it's not been edited.

Well, I can't say that Mike missed one, even if its says "asks me (PU)"

[NC_Blue]

"A ball." That's all a non-pitcher/catcher/captain/coach needs to know.

Sorry....but that's about as bad as what I DID say if you asked me. I've never had a problem telling someone where a pitch I called a ball was.....if asked in a non-confrontational way.

The initial question was asked in a non-confrontational manner. the subsequent COMMENT was the one I had issue with.

[NCASAUmp]

Originally Posted by NC_Blue

Sorry....but that's about as bad as what I DID say if you asked me. I've never had a problem telling someone where a pitch I called a ball was.....if asked in a non-confrontational way.

The initial question was asked in a non-confrontational manner. the subsequent COMMENT was the one I had issue with.

I might throw the word "sir" in front of it, but if that's their question, you know what they're getting at before you even answer. They're going to question your judgment on a called ball.

"Sir, that was a ball." Fairly polite, it tells him all he *needs* to know. Otherwise, I'm going to hear it all game and every game after that one. If the shortstop wants to get in a huff over that, then he can go talk to his coach, and his coach can come out to me to ask me why I didn't answer the question. I'd should only deal with one person (the coach or captain) on something like this, not 10 + 1 coach. On second thought, I shouldn't be dealing with this at all. It's a judgment call. Period.

Edited to add: If the player gets in a huff over it, I've pulled players or coaches aside between innings to explain to them why I answered the way I do: I need to keep this game going, and I can't stop to answer everyone's questions. Nothing personal, I wasn't trying to ignore them (yes, I was), but that's all they needed to know at that time.

[NC_Blue]

I played the game at a pretty competitive level (ASA Nat. Championship...former collegiate baseball player).....and a lot of the guys I umpire around know me as a former player ALSO. In all honesty.....I don't make a habit of discussing balls and strikes with players.....but if a player looks my way and asks....I'll give him the courtesy of answering him UNTIL he/they gives me a reason to NOT be accomodating.

I didn't know this guy.....and his question "seemed" sincere.

Believe me....I have NO PROBLEMS nipping a ball/strike discussion in the bud.....but I got a little blindsided. I wish I hadn't said what I did.....but Ill probably do it again, sometime. Respect works both ways.

I appreciate the discussion.