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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 01:07pm
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There have been times when I have been asked to get help on a call that I have no intention of changing because I had the entire play. As a game management technique, I will go to my partner in private away from the rest of the participants and say something like...."D*mn, it's hot today", or "So, whose turn to buy after the game?"
One of my fellow umpires told me this story. He made a judgment call on his base that he absolutely knew was correct. The coach asked him to talk with his partner about it, so he motioned to the other ump to approach. They met in the middle, and my fellow umpire asked under his breath, "do you like hot dogs?" "Yeah, I like hot dogs." "They're good, aren't they?" "Yeah, they certainly are." All the coaches could see was two umpires talking to each other, nodding their heads. In the end, the call stood, and the coach went away happy.

I see no real harm in doing this (as long as you're POSITIVE no one can hear you). If it's your call, and you are 110% certain of what you saw, there's little point in asking another umpire his/her opinion, other than to soothe a coach's ruffled feathers. I'm not saying let the coaches run the game by any means, but sometimes, to keep the peace on a tight play in a hot game, appearances can mean a lot.

Just don't do this.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

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I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 02:14pm
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If you were in the proper position and were 110% sure of the call, why are you going to your partner for help? I will not hesitate going to my partner for help if there is even a remote chance that there may have been something I did not see. But I will not go just for the sake of making a coach feel warm and fuzzy all over.

However, I've seen coaches and players ask a BU inside the diamond to go for help on a tag play at 2B in a 2-umpire game. "No, Coach. I had this play from start to finish."
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 02:38pm
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If you were in the proper position and were 110% sure of the call, why are you going to your partner for help?
I had the same question.
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Old Wed May 09, 2007, 03:05pm
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If you were in the proper position and were 110% sure of the call, why are you going to your partner for help? I will not hesitate going to my partner for help if there is even a remote chance that there may have been something I did not see. But I will not go just for the sake of making a coach feel warm and fuzzy all over.

However, I've seen coaches and players ask a BU inside the diamond to go for help on a tag play at 2B in a 2-umpire game. "No, Coach. I had this play from start to finish."
Like I said... There's little point in doing so. All depends on how much you care if the coach's feathers are ruffled. Personally, my "give a d@mn" sign for coaches' and players' egos has been out for repair for a long time. Don't let the coach run you. If it's yours, it's yours. Make the call and stick to it. If the coach asks, and you have doubts, then ask your partner.

That's what I was trying to get at.
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I haven't decided if I should call it from the dugout or the outfield. Apparently, both have really great views!

Screw green, it ain't easy being blue!

I won't be coming here that much anymore. I might check in now and again.

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