Who is 1st batter next inning?

[hawk65]

R1 on 3rd, no other runners, 2 outs. B4 has 3-2 count. B4 swings at next pitch but catcher misses ball so B4 runs towards 1st. R1 tries to score on passed ball but is put out at plate making the 3rd out. Does B4 lead off next inning or do you score B4 left on first and B5 leads off next inning?

[mcrowder]

B4's at bat was completed. B5 bats next.

[Skahtboi]

Originally Posted by hawk65

R1 on 3rd, no other runners, 2 outs. B4 has 3-2 count. B4 swings at next pitch but catcher misses ball so B4 runs towards 1st. R1 tries to score on passed ball but is put out at plate making the 3rd out. Does B4 lead off next inning or do you score B4 left on first and B5 leads off next inning?

While I would think the scoring aspect would be a D3K with a FC, I might be wrong. However, B5 leads off the next inning.

[Dakota]

Agree that B5 lead off the next inning. The reasoning is simple: B4 has become a BR, so her time at bat is complete. It is no different from any other 3rd out on a fielder's choice.

[mcrowder]

Originally Posted by Skahtboi

While I would think the scoring aspect would be a D3K with a FC, I might be wrong. However, B5 leads off the next inning.

Actually, D3K is not a proper notation in a scorebook anyway, although I've seen it.

Typical is K-WP or K-PB.

This one is just K-FC, with 2U or 2-1 listed near home on the runner.

Batter is not actually placed anywhere in particular... although I've seen people draw the line to 1st in this case ... as that's where she would have been had this not been the 3rd out.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by mcrowder

Actually, D3K is not a proper notation in a scorebook anyway, although I've seen it.

Typical is K-WP or K-PB.

This one is just K-FC, with 2U or 2-1 listed near home on the runner.

Batter is not actually placed anywhere in particular... although I've seen people draw the line to 1st in this case ... as that's where she would have been had this not been the 3rd out.

In order to prove (balance) the scorebook after the game, you have to treat the batter as left on 1st base, otherwise the totals will not prove.

[MNBlue]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

In order to prove (balance) the scorebook after the game, you have to treat the batter as left on 1st base, otherwise the totals will not prove.

Are you referring to the equation: Opponents PO + LOB + R = PA ?

[hawk65]

Similar question regarding NFHS 3.5.4 SITUATION B:

R1 is on third with no one out. B2 hits a towering fly ball to right field. While the ball is in flight, the third-base coach pushes R1 back toward third base. The ball clears the fence for a home run. RULING: The ball becomes dead when it goes over the fence. R1 is out for being aided. B2 will be allowed to score on the home run unless R1 was the third out, then no run could score. (2-32; 8-6-5; 9-1-1 Exception f)

As this situation is stated, R1 can not be the third out, but restate the situation and say "R1 is on third with two out.." How do you show this in the scorebook and who leads off the next inning?

[Dakota]

I don't do scorebooks, but who leads off the next inning is easy.

Who was the last batter to complete her turn at bat?
B2.

Why would you think she would bat again?

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by MNBlue

Are you referring to the equation: Opponents PO + LOB + R = PA ?

Yes. but runners that get put on base due to the international breaker have to be included in the PA total as well. (the ITB tends to muck up the formula )

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by Dakota

I don't do scorebooks, but who leads off the next inning is easy.

Who was the last batter to complete her turn at bat?
B2.

Why would you think she would bat again?

How do you get B2 as the last batter to complete her turn at bat? Read the post again.

Bob

[Dakota]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

How do you get B2 as the last batter to complete her turn at bat? Read the post again.

Bob

Hmmm... because B2 completed the at bat with a home run, and R1 was the third out on coach's assistance??? Maybe you should read it again.

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by Dakota

Hmmm... because B2 completed the at bat with a home run, and R1 was the third out on coach's assistance??? Maybe you should read it again.

Try finding any mention of B2.

"R1 on 3rd, no other runners, 2 outs. B4 has 3-2 count. B4 swings at next pitch but catcher misses ball so B4 runs towards 1st. R1 tries to score on passed ball but is put out at plate making the 3rd out. Does B4 lead off next inning or do you score B4 left on first and B5 leads off next inning?"

Ops. just realized you were responding to Hawk65's question.

Bob

[CecilOne]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

Try finding any mention of B2.

"R1 on 3rd, no other runners, 2 outs. B4 has 3-2 count. B4 swings at next pitch but catcher misses ball so B4 runs towards 1st. R1 tries to score on passed ball but is put out at plate making the 3rd out. Does B4 lead off next inning or do you score B4 left on first and B5 leads off next inning?"

Ops. just realized you were responding to Hawk65's question.

Bob

Reminds me of "never play leap frog with a unicorn" , the ethereal version.