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Old Mon Apr 09, 2007, 11:13pm
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Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

For example, R1 advancing toward 2B on a ground ball to F4. R1 has every right to attempt to attain 2B on the play. Once F6 caught the ball and tagged the base, the runner (knowing this SS threw in a underhanded (submarine, if you prefer) went down in a feet-first sliding motion and guarded his face with his hands (the hands were in front of the player's head). The throw hit the retired runner's hand and deflected the ball enough F3 dropped the throw.
This is the play talked about at every clinic I attended and discussed the most with other umpires I've talked with.

It is not the ideal play for discussion because to me, its clearly not INT now or last year. THe water can get much muddier.

A sample of this is like when a player essentially makes an error or does not do the exact perfect thing to avoid INT, even if they were trying to avoid INT.

Now in the past, it may have been judged not to be INT- as there was not intent.

Now, as with my play, it is INT.

Its better that way because when there is INT, the offense is disadvantaged, even if not intentional.

Working out the nuances and training umpires on INT may be another matter.

I feel I understand what they want, but with that, I've realized the national staff out and out telling me there was no change in enforcement is incorrect. There is. An act (with a definition such as what you provided, which was excellent) is INT. I dont believe its always been that way though. Intentional is a very specific word.
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