Call this???

[Dakota]

College game. U Tenn's top pitcher (Monica Abbot).

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...59913668&hl=en

Since I don't call college games, let alone top 10 Div 1 games, I have no comment on whether this should have been called. I do know it seemed to happen pretty quickly. It is clear, though, that the person running the camera was wanting "proof"!

[SRW]

That is the 4th of a series of 4 short clips. Here's the first three:

First Clip
Second Clip
Third Clip

[IRISHMAFIA]

Should it be called? Unless there were certain allowances due to property of the dirt, yes. From the looks of the ground around the PP, these were either the first four pitches of the game, or the other pitcher isn't dragging either which makes me think something isn't right.

At that level? Not going to happen as shown.

[tcannizzo]

I don't call college and have little interest in doing so. But it is clear that you don't bang pitchers if you wish to remain in the assignment rotation.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by tcannizzo

I don't call college and have little interest in doing so. But it is clear that you don't bang pitchers if you wish to remain in the assignment rotation.

That won't be the only thing that happens if you start banging pitchers

[SRW]

As long as ...

... no, I won't go there.

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

My primary sport is H.S. and college basketball, but I do umpire H.S. age boys' baseball and girls' fastpitch softball. After watching the four videos, I would call in IP every time, no matter what level the game. Especially at the D-1 level. Why? Because as the skill level of the player increases, so should the player's ability to play the game as required by the rules. It has always bothered me that the SS or 2B only as to catch the ball while in the same area code of 2B to get a force in a MLB game, but in a H.S. freshmen game we would call the runner safe.

MTD, Sr.

[Chess Ref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

My primary sport is H.S. and college basketball, but I do umpire H.S. age boys' baseball and girls' fastpitch softball. After watching the four videos, I would call in IP every time, no matter what level the game. Especially at the D-1 level. Why? Because as the skill level of the player increases, so should the player's ability to play the game as required by the rules. It has always bothered me that the SS or 2B only as to catch the ball while in the same area code of 2B to get a force in a MLB game, but in a H.S. freshmen game we would call the runner safe.

MTD, Sr.

I totally agree with what Mark said. Wrapping up my BB season earlier today and had a coach say"they would have never called that traveling on Michael Jordan but you're gonna call that in a boys 8th grade game. I just shrugged.....

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Chess Ref

I totally agree with what Mark said. Wrapping up my BB season earlier today and had a coach say"they would have never called that traveling on Michael Jordan but you're gonna call that in a boys 8th grade game. I just shrugged.....

Coach needs to learn the difference in playing a game by the rules and entertainment.

Another point. Monica Abbott was a pitcher on last years national team and was instrumental in USA's win of it's third Japan Cup. She has not pitched like this in the past which makes me wonder why she would incorporate an all-to-obvious illegal move to her delivery now.

[Steve M]

I've called this as an IP in several college games and had no problems with assignments. Now, most of my schedule is D2, but it's some of the better schools in D2. One of the teams that had a pitcher two years ago that did this frequently ended up cutting her - and then they won it all last year. And their freshman #1 pitcher was about as text book legal as you could find.