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Old Mon Nov 12, 2001, 02:54pm
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Sam C has posted this on other forums...

Situation: R1(formerly B1) on 1st, B3 bats for B2 and flies out.

Defense legally appeals. Ruling: B2 is declared out on the BOO, so you have B3 out on the play, B2 out on the appeal and B4 is up with 2 outs.

I always thought that you have B3 back at the plate with the unenviable opportunity to make 2 outs in the same inning. What say you folks?


I had previously agreed with Sam here. But look at ASA Case Play 7.2-9, which isn't quite the same play, but close.

R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B, R3 on 1B, B4 scheduled to bat, B5 comes to bat and grounds into a double play, R3 is forced at 2B and B5 at 1B. Defense appeals B5 batting out of order.
RULING: All outs that occurred before the appeal are allowed. Any runners that advanced are returned to their original base. Because of the appeal, B4 is declared out for missing his turn. End result is R1 on 3B, R2 on 2B, 3 outs are recorded. B6 leads off the next inning. (7-2C[2]B)


I would have put B5 first up the next inning as the next player in order after person declared out on the BOO.

What do you say about either / both of these plays?
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Old Mon Nov 12, 2001, 04:56pm
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Depends on what set of rules your games is under - Fed and ASA differ on this one.

Under Fed rules, B3's flyout doesn't count since B2 was out on the BOO appeal. All runners go back to original base, any OTHER outs made on the play stand, and NOW B3 is due to bat.

In ASA, not only is B2 out for BOO, but we keep the flyout the B3 made, all runners go back, any other outs made are counted, and now B4 is due to bat.
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Old Mon Nov 12, 2001, 05:14pm
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Let's change the scenario just a bit (talking ASA rules). Suppose with 1 out, B3 bats in B2's spots and flies out and the defense legally appeals, so we have B2 called out on the BOO for the 3rd out.

Would the lead off batter in the next inning be B4 per 7.2.C2c or B3 per 7.2.C2d?

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Old Mon Nov 12, 2001, 05:26pm
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I'd have B4 leading off the next inning. I think that situation is covered by the case book play Dakota cited.
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Old Mon Nov 12, 2001, 07:20pm
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Let's change the scenario just a bit (talking ASA rules). Suppose with 1 out, B3 bats in B2's spots and flies out and the defense legally appeals, so we have B2 called out on the BOO for the 3rd out.

Would the lead off batter in the next inning be B4 per 7.2.C2c or B3 per 7.2.C2d?

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The last sentence of 7.2.C2c cover this:

"The next batter is the player whose name follows that of the player called out for failing to bat. If the next player was the one called out, go to the next person in the line-up."
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