SP foul out = strike out?

[Stat-Man]

After 10 years of fast pitch, I decided to score our local league's Alumni Softball game. It was my first experience with SP and took getting used to.

On to the question. They played with what might be a local rule where the second foul after two strikes was an out on the batter. Is this considered the same as a strikeout? I _think_ ASA rules were being used.

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

After 10 years of fast pitch, I decided to score our local league's Alumni Softball game. It was my first experience with SP and took getting used to.

On to the question. They played with what might be a local rule where the second foul after two strikes was an out on the batter. Is this considered the same as a strikeout? I _think_ ASA rules were being used.

I would score it as such.

Bob

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

After 10 years of fast pitch, I decided to score our local league's Alumni Softball game. It was my first experience with SP and took getting used to.

On to the question. They played with what might be a local rule where the second foul after two strikes was an out on the batter. Is this considered the same as a strikeout? I _think_ ASA rules were being used.

It would be a strike out if a foul tip or not caught. Otherwise, it would be considered a ball caught in flight.

[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

I would score it as such.

Bob

Based on yours and IrishMafia's replies, what I did was probably correct. I scored it OBR 2 (Out by rule; PO to catcher) since it wasn't a foul tip or U3K.

Thanks.

[umpharp]

Originally Posted by Stat-Man

After 10 years of fast pitch, I decided to score our local league's Alumni Softball game. It was my first experience with SP and took getting used to.

On to the question. They played with what might be a local rule where the second foul after two strikes was an out on the batter. Is this considered the same as a strikeout? I _think_ ASA rules were being used.

After the second foul ball after two strikes is a local rule.

ASA: There is an out recorded if a ball is hit foul with two strikes on the batter.

[bluezebra]

Originally Posted by IRISHMAFIA

It would be a strike out if a foul tip or not caught. Otherwise, it would be considered a ball caught in flight.

Who gets the putout? If a second foul ball with two strikes is an out, it seems to me it's considered a strike, just as in fouling a bunt with two strikes (FP/baseball).

Bob

[tcblue13]

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[Stat-Man]

Originally Posted by bluezebra

Who gets the putout? If a second foul ball with two strikes is an out, it seems to me it's considered a strike, just as in fouling a bunt with two strikes (FP/baseball).

Bob

I gave the putout to the catcher, since it seemd natural. Especially with your FP two strike foul bunt analogy I just notated in my score book OBR2 to indicate:

The batter was out by (local) rule with the putout going to the catcher
I didn't know enugh about SP to know if this was a K.

Although based on TCblue's cute reply , I'm probably going to give the pitcher a strikeout as well.

[Alaska Ump]

Here's a question for you.

Two outs and the batter hits between second the shortstop. Batted ball hits the runner between second and third before passing an infielder other than the pitcher. Third out.

What do you score for the batter?

[SC Ump]

Originally Posted by Alaska Ump

What do you score for the batter?

Traditionally you score a base hit for the batter, with the unassisted putout credited to the fielder nearest to the runner hit by the ball. Here, an "F6UA".

However, a couple of years ago, scoring rules were changed to allow the scorer to rule a fielder's choice on the batter if they believed it was not a base hit, e.g. the fielder was in position to make an obvious play.