ILLEGAL PITCH

TERRY1 · #1 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 10, 2001, 01:27pm

HIGH SCHOOL BALL FED RULES PITCHER STEPS ONTO RUBBER WITH HANDS SEPERATED HESITATES HANDS COME TOGETHER (ALL FINE TO THIS POINT) THEN STEPS FORWARD OF RUBBER WITH HANDS STILL TOGETHER (STILL DON'T KNOW WHY SHE STEPS OF RUBBER) IS THIS A ILLEGAL PITCH? IF I READ RB CORRECTLY THE PITCH DOES NOT START TILL HANS SEPERATE AND SAY THEY MAY STEP BACKWARDS OFF RUBBER BUT DOES NOT REF STEPPING FORWARD.

SamNVa · #2 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 10, 2001, 02:41pm

Rule 6.1.2a The pitch starts when one hand is taken off the ball or the pitcher makes any motion that is part of the windup after the hands have been brought together.

I would consider a step forward after the hands have been brought together to be "part of the windup" and would call an Illegal pitch.

--Sam

Candyman from KC · #3 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 10, 2001, 03:43pm

I agree. Once the pitcher brings her hands together, she must either step backwards off of the rubber or deliver the pitch. If she steps forward towards the plate and does not deliver the pitch an "Illegal Pitch" should be called, and the appropriate penalites enforced if applicable.

TERRY1 · #4 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 10, 2001, 05:28pm

THANKS, THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT TO BUT PARTNER BEHIND PLATE DID'T APEAR TO REACT AT THE TIME AND HE BE MY SENIOR (ME 3RD YEAR ABOUT 400 GAMES) QUESTION MY OWN THOUGHTS AND STAYED QUIET. LUCKY SO DID COACHES. WE DISCUSSED IT AFTER AND LOOKED AT RB AND DECIDED IT SHOUD BE ILLEGAL WILL DUE BETTER NEXT TIME.

whiskers_ump · #5 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 10, 2001, 05:54pm

Quote:

Originally posted by TERRY1
HIGH SCHOOL BALL FED RULES PITCHER STEPS ONTO RUBBER WITH HANDS SEPERATED HESITATES HANDS COME TOGETHER (ALL FINE TO THIS POINT) THEN STEPS FORWARD OF RUBBER WITH HANDS STILL TOGETHER (STILL DON'T KNOW WHY SHE STEPS OF RUBBER) IS THIS A ILLEGAL PITCH? IF I READ RB CORRECTLY THE PITCH DOES NOT START TILL HANS SEPERATE AND SAY THEY MAY STEP BACKWARDS OFF RUBBER BUT DOES NOT REF STEPPING FORWARD.

TERRY1

I agree with Sam and Candyman, but was
wondering what type league or games you
calling utilizing FED rules at this time
of year. Do your local leagues utilized
the NFHS rules?

glen

Gulf Coast Blue · #6 (**permalink**) Fri Aug 10, 2001, 08:30pm

Maybe I am reading this incorrectly.......but........if she continues with the pitch.......I don't see anything wrong with it......

Does she complete the pitch?? Or does she just stop?

BTW Terry 1........try not to post in all CAPS.......it is very hard to read and understand what you are saying.

I will try and clean up what your are trying to say.....

FED ball.....Pitcher steps onto the rubber with her hands seperated......

She hesitates and the hands come forward and then steps forward off of the rubber.............(STILL DON'T KNOW WHY SHE STEPS OF RUBBER).........Does she stop off with her pivot/non-pivot foot? Does she complete the pitch?

Terry.......thanks for posting.......but give us a bit more info..........

Thanks

Joel

[Edited by Gulf Coast Blue on Aug 10th, 2001 at 08:33 PM]

TERRY1 · #7 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 11, 2001, 08:03am

We play fast pitch fall ball in high school here and play under Fed rules. It appeared she was ready to pitch but maybe the catcher start to give her singals again and simply walks of the rubber forward instead of backwards. Did not appear to be starting the pitch just kind of a brain fart I think.

Gulf Coast Blue · #8 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 11, 2001, 08:56am

Thanks for the extra info......

Illegal Pitch 6-1-1-f (1,2,3).

Joel

TERRY1 · #9 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 11, 2001, 10:40am

Thanks all for confirming this for me.

Skahtboi · #10 (**permalink**) Sat Aug 25, 2001, 10:34pm

There is a video that NFHS put out a few years back covering pitching motions, what they consider to be legal and illegal..etc. On that video, they specifically gave the example of a pitcher stepping forward off of the rubber with her hands together. According to this video, you are all correct if you call this an illegal pitch.

whiskers_ump · #11 (**permalink**) Sun Aug 26, 2001, 08:59am

Quote:

Originally posted by Skahtboi
There is a video that NFHS put out a few years back covering pitching motions, what they consider to be legal and illegal..etc. On that video, they specifically gave the example of a pitcher stepping forward off of the rubber with her hands together. According to this video, you are all correct if you call this an illegal pitch.

This video is still available, see next to last
page in back of your 2001 NFHS Softball Rule
book. Cost: $24.95.

glen