The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #16 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jul 17, 2006, 11:14am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 92
I've got 1 from yesterday.

1) 14U Championship game. I'm on the plate. R1 on 2nd. Groundball hit to shortstop. R1 interferes with the fielder attempting to field the batted ball - partner makes the call. Now we have a runner on 2nd (either a runner that started at first, or the BR - I can't remember, and it really doesn't matter for the purpose of this admission) Now the runner on 2nd is a bit confused due to the call (these are 11 yr olds, playing 12U, playing up to 14U). She's kinda off the bag, on the bag - you can just see the wheels spinning in that little head of hers. The defensive team is yelling "tag her, tag her". I'm watching... watching, yes she's off the bag and the tag is made. I give a big Sell Out on the tag. I'm then reminded by the offesive coach that we had a deadball situtation. I covered it well, by immediately telling the coach that he was right, and joking with the defensive team that they even had my going on that one.
__________________
Troy
ASA/NFHS
Reply With Quote
  #17 (permalink)  
Old Mon Jul 17, 2006, 10:55pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sierra Nevada Mtns
Posts: 3,220
Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne
The most classic one of all is heading behind the plate without your mask.
I did this recently in mens fast pitch.. Didnt realize it until the pitcher had began to pitch.. and i just prayed.

Dumb.
__________________
ASA, NCAA, NFHS
Reply With Quote
  #18 (permalink)  
Old Tue Jul 18, 2006, 10:25am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
The NCAA procedure
"The umpire needs to make a ruling only if there is a subsequent play, attempted play, or apparent confusion by the offense or defense after the pitch. If the batter is entitled to run, and the umpire judges that the pitch was not caught (and/or has gotten confirmation from a base umpire that it was not caught), and a play is made on the batter-runner, either the plate or first base umpire will rule on the play. If the plate umpire has judged that the pitch was caught (and/or gotten confirmation from a base umpire that it was caught) and the catcher or batter appears unsure and attempts to play, the umpire should say while signaling an out: “Batter is out.” "

looks good for any rules. I especially try to do the last sentence, although I usually call the out on any caught third strike or "1st occupied" out.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 09:32am
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA; Atlanta area
Posts: 2,822
Quote:
Originally Posted by CecilOne
The NCAA procedure
"The umpire needs to make a ruling only if there is a subsequent play, attempted play, or apparent confusion by the offense or defense after the pitch. If the batter is entitled to run, and the umpire judges that the pitch was not caught (and/or has gotten confirmation from a base umpire that it was not caught), and a play is made on the batter-runner, either the plate or first base umpire will rule on the play. If the plate umpire has judged that the pitch was caught (and/or gotten confirmation from a base umpire that it was caught) and the catcher or batter appears unsure and attempts to play, the umpire should say while signaling an out: “Batter is out.” "

looks good for any rules. I especially try to do the last sentence, although I usually call the out on any caught third strike or "1st occupied" out.
NCAA says to NOT routinely call the "out" on caught third strike; the contrast in not calling it on a drop is considered tipping the offense to the play. That's why they suggest you only call it when they appear confused.
__________________
Steve
ASA/ISF/NCAA/NFHS/PGF
Reply With Quote
  #20 (permalink)  
Old Wed Jul 19, 2006, 07:43pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Land Of The Free and The Home Of The Brave (MD/DE)
Posts: 6,425
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
NCAA says to NOT routinely call the "out" on caught third strike; the contrast in not calling it on a drop is considered tipping the offense to the play. That's why they suggest you only call it when they appear confused.
I know, and agree with the idea, just describing my habit in mostly NFHS and PONY games.
__________________
Officiating takes more than OJT.
It's not our jobs to invent rulings to fit our personal idea of what should and should not be.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Loud Coach Acting the Fool Chess Ref Softball 8 Sat Mar 18, 2006 09:23am
umpire making me look the fool ump12 Baseball 11 Thu Aug 08, 2002 01:03pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:26pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1