The Official Forum  

Go Back   The Official Forum > Softball
Register FAQ Community Calendar Today's Posts Search

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Rate Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 02:52pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Hurricane, WV
Posts: 800
Send a message via AIM to Mountaineer Send a message via Yahoo to Mountaineer
Quote:
Originally Posted by AtlUmpSteve
On Mike's particular play quoted above, ASA has 3 outs; the two on the play, and the BOO. B4 leads off next inning. In NFHS, there would be two outs only, as the improper batter is not out, simply removed and that out is replaced by the BOO. The key word in the effect is "other"; any "other" runners put out remain out, but the improper batter is simply erased by the BOO. R1 out on the play, B2 out on BOO, and B3 bats again.

Of course, in NCAA, if coach appeals, the entire at-bat is a do-over with just the BOO; here's an instance where the defense is better served to ignore the offense and keep the double play. If they appeal, R1 back to 1B, B2 out on BOO, B3 bats again. If no appeal, play stands, R1 & B3 out on the play, and B4 is the proper batter.
Steve, as I read the rule I disagree with you. It says that the proper batter is out and all other outs stand. I don't see how you can do anything but get 3 outs. I'm going to read it yet again tonight - but from what I read I'm getting 3 outs in Fed.
__________________
Larry Ledbetter
NFHS, NCAA, NAIA

The best part about beating your head against the wall is it feels so good when you stop.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old Fri Jul 14, 2006, 03:28pm
Official Forum Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Woodstock, GA; Atlanta area
Posts: 2,822
Larry, I would have agreed, too, until I read 2006 Casebook play 7.1.2 Sit H. I am skipping unneeded words. Page 43. By the asterisk, it is a new or revised ruling.

B1 is due up but B2 bats instead. B2 hits a ground ball, and a) is safe at first, or b) thrown out at first. Defense properly appeals before next pitch. RULING: In both (a) & (b), B1 is out and B2's at-bat nullified. In (a), B2 is removed from base. In both (a) & (b), B2 is now the proper batter and bats again with one out and no runners.

Again, ASA would have same ruling in (a), but 2 outs and B3 batting in (b). That's the difference; it doesn't matter in NFHS if you get the batter out, just if you get OTHER runners out.
__________________
Steve
ASA/ISF/NCAA/NFHS/PGF
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
"Another" Batting Out Of Order rj Softball 6 Thu May 05, 2005 08:01pm
Batting Order rwest Softball 25 Fri Feb 25, 2005 04:05pm
Batting out of order. Illini_Ref Baseball 6 Mon May 10, 2004 11:02pm
batting out of order klp3515 Baseball 5 Wed May 07, 2003 12:34pm
Batting out of order Bdogg Softball 3 Mon Apr 28, 2003 10:41pm


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:25pm.



Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.3.0 RC1