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Hey, "Hoss", we're just going off of what you said. Now you change the story - don't blame him for commenting on what you said you wore - YOU SAID YOU WORE IT. I'm wearing shorts this weekend, as I said, but I would never say we were going to be looking professional this weekend - we're making a concious decision to give in to the elements just this once. You, however, seem to think you look good in what OBVIOUSLY (to everyone else) doesn't. Your attitude is likely representative of EXACTLY the reason no one listens to you. You may know what you are talking about on the field, but if you present it the way you come across here, I can't blame people for blowing you off.
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Im not talking about how YOU look physically...I am asking you to consider how you look wearing shorts with FP gear. In my OPINION, you look less professional by DEFAULT. I actually am MUCH more concerned by the fact that you dont wear a chest protector for your personal safety. but like I said earlier....I could reason with you all day... and WHY arent 10u girls worth your best uniform? you have something against them?
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I have heard all about why you believe we should be wearing a chest protector. I have just not needed one. I noticed after about 5 years of wearing one that I almost never got hit where I needed one. As far as my best uniform If all I have on is a mask, how is this not a good uniform if it is acceptable for slow pitch why not fast pitch, I would never wear shorts with shin guard or even plate shoes with the metatarsal guard. And I agree that we should all look our best, I just believe that physical size makes many umpires look sloppy and slow as well. My uniforms are always clean and pressed, My shoes and belt always shined. My bib line always straight. I even press my ball bags. I buy new hats every year and rotate them to make sure they are clean and with a garrison crease. I apologize for my attitude, It comes from a season of working 2 games a night with clueless joes. That are wearing pants, but nothing is pressedor shined and their rule books haven't even had the spine creased in them as of yet.
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Milkman - I wear shorts and look cool
Everyone else - Wearing shorts cannot look good. Milkman - No I look cool because everyone else is fat. Plus, I'm tough because I don't wear a chest protector or normal shinguards. Everyone else - Wearing shorts cannot look good, and you're really endangering yourself by not wearing at least the chest protector. Milkman - Nuh, uh, Hoss... everyone else is fat - they look horrible. Besides, I only look cool in shorts for 10U, which don't deserve the full uniform. Everyone else - Wearing shorts cannot look good. Milkman - Yuh, huh - cause everyone else is fat. I can't help but picture Ben Stiller in Dodgeball when I read toughguy's posts... STFU.
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But, heck, guy, I get hit more at 10U than any other age level. Sure, the pitches are not 65 mph, but the "foul tips"  still hurt, and I can't imagine calling a FP game at any level without shin guards. I'm not into pain, no matter how temporary.
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Quotes and smiley apparently lost on this one...
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So if I concede the point on shorts, How do you feel about out of shape overweight officials?
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In football, however, we seem to have more than our fair share of plus-size officials. Some of them hustle, look good, and do their job well. Some of them don't. I do have a problem with those that don't, although again I would say I have the same problem with "in-shape" officials that look crappy or don't get into position. Perhaps in your locale, you just have more than your fair share of overweight guys, and those guys also happen to be either lazy, sloppy, or both. I have no problem with you focusing some ire on their laziness or sloppiness. I'm not sure I agree with the bitterness solely directed to their eating habits though.
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Again I apologize for my bitterness, it comes from a couple of seasons of working with these clowns that are fat, slow, lazy , unlearned and unkempt. I joined the high school association to work with the proffesional guys and found the same guys there for the most part, maybe we are handicapped by the fact that San Antonio is considered one of the fattest cities in the world. Any way I got to polish the shoes and shave the face for a double header tonight with a guy that will probably be wearing track shoes, dickies and have a strike zone that is everywhere but in the zone
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Well, I am one! I like me! My wife is one! I like her! Worked with another tonight! I like her! Watched a MLB game this afternoon, saw a couple there too. I like them. Watched Miami vs Ga Tech tonight, saw at least one big guy there. I like him too. All were very professional in appearance and practice. My wife and I called an NCAA game earlier this year, and went out to eat afterwards. Us fat folks gotta keep shoveling it in you know. While eating, in walks one of the catchers from the game, with her family and a couple of teammates. This young lady is rather rotund, perhaps more so than I and the mrs combined! Her shirt caught my eye, on the front it said "I AM IN SHAPE" and on the back was "ROUND IS A SHAPE". And yes she was an awesome player. milkmandog; You may look fine to yourself, but from what I've seen of you...........
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I have seen it and been subjected to it. I would definitely fit in the "round" category. Mine is a long story and I won't bore you with everything...I need to write a book ... because you obviously don't give a rat's ***. You just see a "fat guy" and think we can't do our job, et cetera et cetera. Trust me, I know and have heard all the et ceteras. Let's see, what have I run into ... "Can't put you on that game. It's appearances, ya know? You understand, right." Of course, I just shake my head. "Can't put you out there on the field with him/her. Him/her thinks you can't pull your load. I know you can, but him/her did (high level TV tournament) and I respect his/her wishes." On and on and on. There's more, but I will spare you. Of course the fact that I am one hell of an umpire, that I go out of my way to be sure my shirts and pants and shoes and hats and ball bags and brushes and indicators and lineup card holders and pencils and socks and McDavids (yes, they do make them in my size) are in excellent order (because they are supposed to be - it's call uniform for a reason), that I can get to where I need to be EVERY time (and get there surprisingly quickly) doesn't make a bit of difference to folks like you because of one thing: prejudice. Good umpires come in all shapes and sizes - and so do not so good umpires. Being HWP doesn't make one a good umpire. Hell, it doesn't even mean good health. A good friend of mine had a big scare recently. He's 6-1 and about 180, doesn't drink, doesn't smoke. He was a walking heart attack because his cholesterol was over 500. Some might say, fine, exercise, do whatever, lose it. Wish I could. I was the white hat (referee for those who aren't football officials) in a game about 15 years ago in TX...opening game of the season, two good 5A teams. Got hurt. Saw a quack in the ER. Gave me some medicine and a prescription for same. Turns out we had a little toxic shock deal that ruined me...plus almost lost my leg. Another quack put me on the wrong kind of steroids. Next thing you know I look like Alvin the chipmunk. Oh, did I mention the eight skin grafts and the other surgeries? I will never get my old body back, but I did work HARD for YEARS to get back to where I can umpire. Of course I will never set foot on an NCAA field. Hell, maybe never another national, or regional, or a HS playoff game Who knows? I might get hit by the beer truck on the way to the 7-11 for a Slurpee, three bags of chips and a couple ice creams (did I leave anything out?). Of course, never will I escape the stereotypes and prejudices. But you know something else? I will NEVER let folks like you prevent me from having fun out there on the diamond with an avocation I love.
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I go to the gym faithfully, 4-6 times a week. I do weight training and aerobic training. I run 5 miles in an hour 3-4 times a week. I don't eat all that much. Yet at 6'2", I am still unable to break that 220 barrier, and even with all the crunches that I do, I still have a noticeable gut. I am no where near out of shape, but the shape that genetics deems "in shape" for me, is not the "ideal" shape to be in.  So, your prejudices sometimes bely other aspects of your character. Not saying that it is true in your case, just "food" for thought.
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