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Old Tue Mar 28, 2006, 02:48pm
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Even though the asa rules says slipping or throwing in anger, I would have warned her, next time she is ejected. To me it would be a safety issue.
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Old Tue Mar 28, 2006, 03:03pm
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Even though the asa rules says slipping or throwing in anger, I would have warned her, next time she is ejected. To me it would be a safety issue.
What rule, from the book, are you going to use to support this action?
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Old Tue Mar 28, 2006, 03:12pm
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slung the bat

I would use unsportsman like behavior. She was warned once.
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Old Tue Mar 28, 2006, 04:17pm
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Unsportsmanlike behavior? Show me the rule you will point to when you threaten my best player with ejection for inadvertently throwing a bat. Show me the rule you will point to when she is ejected for accidentally doing it a 2nd time. This is a protest you will lose (assuming your local league isn't making up rules on this).
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Old Tue Mar 28, 2006, 04:26pm
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I would use unsportsman like behavior. She was warned once.
Again....what rule, from the book, are you going to use to support this action?
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 08:14am
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I think you use Rule 10
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 09:12am
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I think you use Rule 10
I don't believe that applies. There is a standing ruling from the ASA Director of Umpires that absent intent, there is no penalty. In order to rule USC, you must rule intent (ie, thrown in anger).

Since there is a ruling, you cannot use the rule that says you can decide when there is no ruling that applies.
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Old Wed Mar 29, 2006, 10:16am
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I don't believe that applies. There is a standing ruling from the ASA Director of Umpires that absent intent, there is no penalty. In order to rule USC, you must rule intent (ie, thrown in anger).

Since there is a ruling, you cannot use the rule that says you can decide when there is no ruling that applies.
Actually, POE #52 covers it.
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Old Thu Mar 30, 2006, 08:06am
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I don't believe that applies. There is a standing ruling from the ASA Director of Umpires that absent intent, there is no penalty. In order to rule USC, you must rule intent (ie, thrown in anger).

Since there is a ruling, you cannot use the rule that says you can decide when there is no ruling that applies.
Thanks Steve that does make sense. What I was thinking if the bat was thrown in a way that you felt was a safety issue and there is no rule stating that the act is illegal you could use rule 10 and at least give a warning that if it happened again the player could be disqualified. I don’t' have my book with me but I' will check POE #52 as Mike said.
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