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College, none. (They know how, when and where to discuss) High School, none. ( most know the rules) Travel ball: Pony, none. (experienced) NSA, 3. (some knuckleheads) ASA, 6,(all in one tournament, two diffrent teams) Community,6 (two grandparents for swearing at me in the presence of the players, four coaches...same team
My pregame with head coaches: don't argue judegment calls, if it's a rule problem, we'll discuss it and get it right, and keep you assistant coaches under control |
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Booker227... "... two grandparents for swearing at me in the presence of the players,..."
You tossed the coaches for what the fans did???
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I think he tossed the GRANDPARENTS, even if the thread had really only asked about coaches.
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You are tough on the churches. It is kind of a shame that church leagues tend to be the one's you would least expect the trouble and yet that's where it comes from. I played church league ball in SC and remember well how it can be. The worst was when I was playing in VA though and the guys on my church team were the worst in the league. They got away with a ton of stuff
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Not a coach as per the original question, but I just had my first ejection - a catcher no less. And I thought the PUs and F2s were supposed to work together.
This one had been all over me the whole game, a 16 Gold Championship game in a weekend tourny a couple of weeks ago. Up until this happened I was letting her comments role off like water on a duck. Then the obstruction at home happens, runner was able to not get tagged, backed up, and get in a run-down. My partner (SRW) and I get that squared away (I won't go into the mistake that we made on the award, which actually favored the obstructing team). F2, and the coach have a major problem with the OB call. She's chirping the whole time as the next 2 pitches come in (both strikes). Runners on 1st and 3rd, and F2 tells me (very sarcastically) to puh-lease watch the runners leaving early. I quietly tell her that I have a partner out there, and that if she wants me to keep calling the strikes that her pitcher is throwing, I can't possible keep my eyes on both runners. To that I get something like, "that's f-ing B.S. Bye bye F2. Coach comes out inquiring. He's still hot about the OB call. When I tell about the F-bomb, he promptly turns to his fans and asked, "did you guys hear her say anything?" Some in my group have said that he should have been gone at that point. I don't take any pride in running anyone from a game (coaches, fans, and especially players). As a result, I've probably taken more than my share of abuse. This game was quickly getting out of hand, and I just couldn't give the catcher any more rope. I do feel some pride in how my partner and I handled the coach during the ensuing discussion. Bottom-line 3yrs umpiring, 1 player gone.
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Troy ASA/NFHS Last edited by streamdoc; Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 02:38pm. |
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Perhaps there is some other dynamic in larger churches in larger cities. Though I'm no longer a church goer, perhaps I still expect a higher standard from the folks that respresent those institutions. In a high school tournament this past week-end, we called a penalty strike for a slap hitter wiping out the front line of the batters box. (New NFHS rule.) It was called against the local private religious school. In a fairly quiet discussion, the coach told my partner that it was a "bullshėt call". I agree with my grandma's words, "churches are for sinners, not just saints." Maybe these are just the types of instances that stand out the most.
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