Same Tournament -Umpires, Next Game

[whiskers_ump]

Bases loaded, 1 out, batter bunts, F5 throws home. Out call made by PU. BR
stops short of 1B, retreats toward HP and retrives her bat and carries it towards
first base dugout. F2 has thrown the ball to F3 who is standing between pitching
circle and 1B. Players and coaches all yelling different instructions to F3.
Offensive coach screaming at BR. Meanwhile, Runner from 2B has now crossed
the plate.

What is your call?

[Edited by whiskers_ump on Feb 19th, 2006 at 04:42 PM]

[Steve M]

Don't have a call yet, Glen. Something more needs to happen - such as F3 going over & touching 1B, BR going into the dugout, BR getting a clue & running to 1B, ...

[JEL]

Same here.

I bet BR was called out for retreating.

Would only be good if avoiding a tag.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Yep, include me in the bunch. No play, no call.

[mcrowder]

I got nothing, yet.

[Skahtboi]

Originally posted by mcrowder
I got nothing, yet.

Same here.

[CecilOne]

I guess what you are also getting at is that if the BR becomes an out before reaching 1st, that would be a third out and the R2 run would not count.

[whiskers_ump]

OK, Here was their ruling.

BR out, and run did not score.

Reasoning was, or rather their question after the game was, how long do you
give a runner to get to 1B before they would be out? Nothing was done
by offense or defense teams, so they made their ruling.

We know, we have a lot of work to do, and have a lot of new umpires to do it
with.

[JEL]

Originally posted by whiskers_ump


Reasoning was, or rather their question after the game was, how long do you
give a runner to get to 1B before they would be out?

AHA!!!!! The 'ol "Timing Play"

Looks as if we are gonna field a few new guys this season also. I'll run this one past them BEFORE they hit the field! Hope it sticks!

[tzme415]

Had a similar play last year doing ASA Coed Adults, I am only umpire:

R1 on 1st, 1 out, Batter hits a sharp one hopper to F6 who steps on 2B and fires ball to F3. F3 misses 1B by at least 3 ft, I think she thought there were 2 outs. F3 tosses ball on ground toward pitching rubber. The BR only went about half way to 1B before stopping and yelling to her team on the third base side, 'Hey bring me my glove.' The defensive team starts to leave the field while the other team is gathering their gloves to come onto the field. I am lucky the catcher is paying attention and notices that I am not going to my normal position between innings and asks me, 'Is that 3 outs?'. I say 'No'. She very quietly goes and picks up the ball and walks over to 1B and steps on the bag. I ring up the 3rd out, I still don't think the offensive team knows what happened.

I wondered too, when would I have finally called the 3rd out if the catcher wouldn't have bailed me out. And what if the BR was playing 1B and their dugout was on the 1B side, so someone threw her her glove and she ran over and touched 1B. Was she out as soon as she grabbed the glove or safe when she touched 1B? Or better yet she went passed 1B without touching it while waiting for someone to bring her the glove? This could pose other problems like if she has to avoid one of the fielders running off the field, is this now OBS?

[Dakota]

In that situation, I would suggest a loud, bellowing, "THAT'S ONLY TWO OUTS" while holding up your right arm showing a count of "2". That way, both teams have a chance to scramble to deal with it, instead of just the defense.