If you look in the definition section of the ASA book on appeals it states:

<i>An appeal play is a play on which an umpire may not make a decision until requested by a <b>manager, coach</b> or player.</i>

When you look in the POE #1 on appeals...........it instructs you on when, how, and who may make appeals.

At no point does it state that a manager or coach may make an appeal.........only fielders (it specifically states an infielder in a dead ball appeal).

Is the point of the definition that the manager or coach may <b>start</b> the appeal procedure.......but it still must be properly <b>completed</b> by a fielder?

Just thought that this could be a bit confusing if someone ONLY read the definition section.

Joel

Joel,

I've been aware of this for as long as I can remember reading the different types of appeal.

An infielder isn't likely to be the one to request an appeal on BOO or a rules interpretation, that manager or coach is going to make that one. However, on a missed base or a base left too soon on a caught fly ball, the book differentiates between a live and dead ball appeal. The reason for the need for an "infielder" to make a dead ball appeal, with or without the ball, is to create some sort of order when requesting an appeal, not having outfielders screaming and hollering to the umpires.

Just a thought.

Joel,

I had some confusion when I first read the definition too then went to POE#1 for proper appeals I came to the conclusion that the definition was referring to coach's right to appeal situation such as a called 3rd strike and to ask ump to appeal to his partner on certain out and safe calls didnt see anywhere a coach could ask for an appeal in baserunning violations though

And what Mike just said (didnt see his post till I already posted)

JMHO

Don

Thanks guys............

The BOO never crossed my mind in that section.

As always............it was so obvious, I never thought of it. :D

Joel