4th Out?

[Roger Greene]

Don,

I don't know about ASA, but in Fed or USSSA I don't think you would allow this kind of 4th out.

I would allow an appeal of a baserunning error for the 4th out that might disallow a run, but for the arguements given in the BB list, I don't think this is a baserunning error. Once a third out is made no baserunning errors can occur. A missed base before the third out would be a baserunning error and therefor subject to an appeal.

Don't let the unpublished PBUC ruling get too deep in your head. I'm not sure it will last.

Roger Greene,
Member UT

Added statement: I just read the POE-Appeals in a 1999 ASA book. Nothing I can see would justify the 4th out in this sitch. Point M discussses a runner being appealed for leaving 3rd base early. Point A lists the types of appeals that may be made, and of the 4 not one of them is failing to advance to the next base after a third out is declared. I don't think the call is justified in ASA unless something has been added since 1999.
Roger

[Edited by Roger Greene on Mar 30th, 2001 at 08:39 PM]