Out on a home run?

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Originally posted by Ed Maeder
The person that hit the home run is out for passing the runner from first. Third out no runs score. With less then two outs the person that hit the home run is out for passing the runner from first and I'm waiting for an appeal that the runner from first didn't touch home. In both situations no runs score, if the appeal is made with less than two outs. No appeal made one run in second situation. As an umpire you would call the runner out right away for passing another runner. Here we don't run out of the park home runs out so this would be a moot point and all runs would score and no outs would be recorded.

[Edited by Ed Maeder on May 19th, 2005 at 05:26 PM]

This is one of the contradictions in the rule book and case book. Rule 8.7.D does not mention the status of the ball at the time of the passing. POE #39 states that this is a live ball violation which would exclude the application of the rule on an over-the-fence home run. However, several case book plays note that the status is irrelevant to the ruling.

In the scenario above, if R1 stepped away from the basepath used by the following runner, I might see this as not physically passing R1 as, by rule, R1 may determine their own basepath as long as they touch the bases in legal order. However, once the trailer touches home, R1 is out of options and a proper appeal would rule R1 out which means that if the third out, no following runners can score.

JMHO, in light of the contradictions