B][/QUOTE]You haven't quite caught on to the familiar ribbing that goes on here. It's not hostility (well, at least not most of the time). [/B][/QUOTE]
Come on..that was a rib/dig in itself. Your just not used to my flavor. No harm, no foul, play ball.
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Well, I've been playing ball since 1958. I've been involved with Little League, Kiwanis League, Babe Ruth, high school, semi-pro as either a player or umpire. Then I moved over to softball and have been involved at all levels, male, female and co-rec as either a player or umpire and NEVER heard the term "pickle" used to describe a rundown until I began visiting these boards.

I guess it all depends on where you are standing on this earth as to how "smart" you seem to be at any given time.

Maybe its a southern thing. Where I grew up, NC, thats all I ever heard it described as. Here in SC, where I live now, same thing.
Ive watched alot of pro baseball and hear the term used as frequent as there is a rundown.
Anyway, not trying to appear to be smarter, just sharing the luv of the game.

I've heard it called a pickle probably more often than I've heard it called a rundown.

PS - Can't find rundown in the book either... :)

Where about? I started life as a TarHeel. Durham to be exact.

POE - Obstruction.

Little place called Albemarle, east of Charlotte.
Now, a little place called Rock Hill, SC; hence, rhsc as username..for the detailed impaired.

Good catch, Dakota.

I guess we now have official confirmation that there's no such thing as a pickle unless you go to the concession stand. :o

I guess that means we gotta go to Wal-Mart for a 'mirror,' too, then. (from another thread)
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[Edited by rhsc on Mar 30th, 2005 at 03:42 PM]

Hey Pickle pokers!
 

To the topic at hand... perceived interference by BR going to 1st (where else can she go - right?).

I think a couple of you, quietly, gave the answer that I would give.

Some of you cast doubts about calling interference in situation D where the ball hits the BR but the umpire thinks that maybe, perhaps, possibly the throw would not have reached F4 in flight. (in time?) Well I'm sorry folks but scenario D is the only one for which I would definitely call interference.

Scenario D is the only one with actual evidence that the BR interfered. All the others are a guess... I wouldn't say judgement. I would definitely say guess. I'm not there to guess. Catcher, prove to me that the BR interfered or she is safe.

Scenario A - poor throw - bad placement.
Scenario B - again, poor throw.
Scenario C - no throw, poor choice.
Scenario D - flight has nothing to do with it. Scoop it out of the dirt. Ball hit BR. BR was not in a legal location. "Time. Dead ball. BR is out." Other runners return to last base touched at time of interference.
Scenario E - poor throw. How do I know it wasn't going to be too late on the first pump.

I'm thinking that you guys need to eat less pickles. ;)
Just funnin'

Re: Hey Pickle pokers!
 

Well, since your, uh, I mean yore, aw, heck - YER funnin' - that would be fewer pickles! http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/mica/Miscguy2.gif

Cali here.. Pickle is well used term and understood by all to mean a rundown. Real suprised at some whove been around the block saying they never heard that term.. almost unbelievable.

Merriam – Webster
Pickel: a difficult situation : Plight <could see no way out of the pickle I was in -- R. L. Stevenson>

The American Heritage ® Dictionary
Pickle: A disagreeable or troublesome situation; a plight
Baseball. A rundown

Roget's II: The New Thesaurus
A difficult, often embarrassing situation or condition:
box1, corner, deep water, difficulty, dilemma, Dutch, fix, hole, hot spot, hot water, jam, plight1, predicament, quagmire, scrape, soup, trouble.


Seems like most of these words aptly describe a runner hung up in no manÂ’s land; being chased to and fro, every twist and turn she confronts evil intent of getting rid of her.

WMB

Downtowntonybrown
It looks like you and me are the only ones to agree .

Regards
Dave Beaumont

J.H.C. I wasn't saying it wasn't a term to be used, I just said in my part of the world it isn't used as a description for a rundown in a softball game.

Hell, when a manager has no sub for the player that just injured themselves, they, too, are in a pickle.