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Mon Jun 28, 2004, 09:57pm
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Defensive time outs?
What is the ASA rule on how many times a meeting can take place on the mound before the pitcher has to be changed? Also does this include player meetings, coaches, just pitcher and catcher?
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Mon Jun 28, 2004, 10:52pm
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A defensive conference occurs when a member from the defensive team enters the playing field to talk to one of their players. This can be a coach or a player who enters the playing field.
They are allowed 3 defensive conferences a game. They can all be in the same inning, or spaced out. On the 4th conference of the game, the pitcher is removed from the rubber for the remainder of the game.
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Tue Jun 29, 2004, 08:40am
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Speaking ASA... It is not a charged defensive conference if the players request TIME and when TIME is granted, the catcher, pitcher, and/or other players meet for a discussion. It is only a charged defensive conference if a coach or other team representative (which may be a player) from the dugout enters the field of play and talks with a defensive player. It is also a charged defensive conference if a player approaches the dugout for a discussion. Point being - players on the field cannot be charged with a defensive conference. It must involve the dugout (coach or other team representative).
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Tue Jun 29, 2004, 09:42am
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Just to clarify that it is not a defensive conference if a defensive player approaches the dug out and receives instructions. The change this year though does not allow the team representative to have any verbal comments with any defensive player before they inform the umpire that they will be changing the pitcher. If they don't do this in the correct order it will be a charged conference.
[Edited by Ed Maeder on Jun 29th, 2004 at 10:44 AM]
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Tue Jun 29, 2004, 10:29am
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Tue Jun 29, 2004, 10:32am
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Your first sentence is misleading. If play is stopped for a defensive player to approach the dugout for instruction from someone in the dugout, it is a charged conference. (ASA 5.7.B)
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Tue Jun 29, 2004, 02:20pm
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I wasn't sure if the rule included conferences with the catcher and pitcher. We have an assistant coach with our team who is constantly telling our catcher to go talk to the pitcher even for something as simple as a 3-1 count. I don't really think it is necessary, especially with a 10u slowpitch team. We haven't been penalized for this, however, the other night an umpire did comment on it so I was looking for some clarification. Thanks alot to all who replied.
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Tue Jun 29, 2004, 07:34pm
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I guess that what I am looking at are two different scenarios. In the definitions it states that if the defensive team requests a suspension of play and the defensive player approaches the dug out and receives instructions it is a charged conference, but in the points of emphasis it says should a defensive player approach the dugout and receive instructions, this is not considered a defensive conference. The difference being the request for a suspension of play. Once again I stand corrected.
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Wed Jun 30, 2004, 07:29am
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It also may be a matter of degree.
F2 requests TIME and goes out to talk with F1. Meanwhile, F5 takes a step or 2 closer to the dugout to hear shouted instructions from the coach. I wouldn't consider that a charged conference. Defensive dugout requests TIME and motions F5 over. F5 goes over to the dugout to recieve instructions (out of earshot of the base coach). Meanwhile, F2 goes out to talk with F1. I would consider that a charged conference.
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