Hands-Bat Discussion AGAIN!

[wadeintothem]

Originally posted by chuck chopper
(I think some get confused when the batters hands (while in the strike zone) get hit. Either on a bunt, a swing, or just standing there. It is never a hit by pitch-take a base situation, and it is never a fair ball-run to first situation. I have seen comments on baseball side where if you swing ?, and are hit in the hands (even outside the strike zone) it is not a hit by pitch situation. I believe that was totally incorrect.

I was BSing with coach and the ump who had worked their game the night before.

They tell me of a call he made the night before... hbp, on hands... ruled foul/strike because hands part of bat - didnt swing and out of zone. _Coach AND the blue_ thought the call was correct so there was no disagreement during the game on the call. I'm not even so sure they believed me that they were both wrong.

I think I posted it here when it happened... but not sure.

[Dakota]

Reminds me of the story someone told a year or so ago.

X-2 count. Batter swings and contact is made. Ball goes into foul territory. Blue rules FOUL BALL.

Offensive coach comes out and says, "The ball hit her hands, Blue." (Looking for a HBP call & first base.)

Blue says, "Are you sure you want to make that claim, coach?"

Coach, "Yes."

Blue, "OK - DEAD BALL, STRIKE THREE."

I don't know if the story was true.

[IRISHMAFIA]

Originally posted by mcrowder
There's no rule that states that the hands are not part of the bat.

There is also no rule that states that the toes, ears, or hipbone are not part of the bat.

Why would you need one. Hands are Hands. Bats are Bats.

Read the relevant rules about HBP - it does not say, "When a pitched ball strikes a batter, except of course on the hands, the ball is dead" It just says "When a pitched ball strikes a batter, the ball is dead," with the various rulings (swinging, not-swinging, ball, strike, etc.) coming after that.

Speaking ASA.

Rule 8.1.F "The batter's hands are not to be considered a part of the bat."