NFHS Fastpitch:

R1 on 2nd and R2 on 1st. 3 balls no strikes on B1. Next pitch is ball four and deflects off catchers helment and goes out of play. Umpire awards R1 home and R2 third and B1 1B on ball four. Doe the runners advance to 2nd 3rd on the ball four and then to home and third due to the ball going out of play? Your comments are appreciated.

Scoots34,

Welcome to the board.

Runners are awarded one base from the time of pitch (TOP)

Similar situation 10U ASA....

Runner on 3rd, wild pitch lodges in backstop netting.
Do you award runner home?

There have been two schools of thought in our local league. First is, the award is given from TOP. Second thought is, runner may not steal home, therefore you can't award home. My thoughts have always been make the award.

I haven't done a 10U in a long time, but the Mrs still does. This question was debated by her and her partner, and UIC gave them a ruling last night.

What Say Ye?

Similar situation 10U ASA....

Runner on 3rd, wild pitch lodges in backstop netting.
Do you award runner home?

There have been two schools of thought in our local league. First is, the award is given from TOP. Second thought is, runner may not steal home, therefore you can't award home. My thoughts have always been make the award.

I haven't done a 10U in a long time, but the Mrs still does. This question was debated by her and her partner, and UIC gave them a ruling last night.

What Say Ye
__________________________________________________ ___
Jel,

10U Rule ASA 8-4H.

6. Runners can only score on:
a) a batted ball,
b) a base on balls or hit batter with bases full or,
c) on an awarded base with the ball goes:
1) out of play, or
2) on an illegal pitch.

Yes, make the award.

According to the article I read the umpires awarded R1 home thus ending the game in the bottom of the 8th. I cannot find any justification for this in the rule book. Any thoughts??

Jel,

10U Rule ASA 8-4H.

6. Runners can only score on:
a) a batted ball,
b) a base on balls or hit batter with bases full or,
c) on an awarded base with the ball goes:
1) out of play, or
2) on an illegal pitch.

Yes, make the award.


Yep, That was the ruling! There were a couple of Umps, (lots of seniority) leaning to the no award. Even after having 8-4-H pointed out to them.

Where was this article? Maybe there was something you were missing in the situation- or they are just wrong!

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Hugo Tafurst2
[B]Where was this article? Maybe there was something you were missing in the situation- or they are just wrong!


[Edited by Scoots34 on Mar 31st, 2004 at 09:32 AM]

Scoots 34, we had something similar recently.
Where are you located?
BTW, welcome to the board

Tampa. I read this situation on TBOonline.com

scoots34

What is the web address for the site? I went to TBOonline.com
and came up with bunch of cell phone and other electronic
equipment information.
Of course I have had trouble typing all day.

Heck, I tried it and got an offer to sell the web site to me. Started to do it and then I realized I didn't need one.

Next time I tried, I got the Tobacco ads...LOL

Here is the link. Not sure how long it will be avaialable so Ihave included the important parts of the article.

http://prepsports.tbo.com/prepsports/MGAKUMBZGSD.html

"It proved to be memorable as Bloomingdale's Melissa Mestre reached base on a fielder's choice in the eighth inning and Jasmine Rivera walked, putting runners on first and second with two outs. The Bulls' Allison Kime was ahead on the count 3-0 against Durant pitcher Krysta Harris (8-3). The next pitch was high and bounced off Durant catcher Lauren Pulling's helmet, sailing over the back fence. Not only did Kime walk, but Bloomingdale (17-2) also was awarded an extra base because the ball bounced out of bounds, scoring Mestre from third. "

TROLL ALERT
 

Hmmm I smell a troll.
Earlier today you said you were from DesMoines Iowa, now you are from Tampa.
Who are you?