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I sent the umpire that asked me this question to Rule 8, section 2, N 2 on page 95 of the 2016 ASA rule book.
It specifically states, that A batted ball hitting or bounding over the contrasting color portion is foul. |
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In the rare situation where it bounced in such a way that it pretty much took a 90 degree angle and went over some of the white base before touching the orange base, I would call this fair because of the definition of Fair Ball, line B "Bounds over or past first or third base, which is in fair territory, regardless of where the ball hits after going over the base."
That is what most of you are saying and that's they way i was taught and interpret the book and definition of Fair Ball and how i would call it. But Rich Ives makes a point that in 8.7.N.2 it plainly states "A batted ball hitting or bounding over the contrasting color portion is foul." That line is the source of the controversy. Although if the ball went over the white base it should be called fair; that line in 8.7.N.2. does not allow for that situation. it simply says the ball is foul when it touches the contrasting color base. I would still call it fair. |
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http://i.imgur.com/7JEQT0m.jpg Fair ball all day long if the orange bag is not in use, right? Does 8.7.N.2 have precedence over Rule 1? |
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OK, so the controversy continues:
1. Youngump says "The rules have a contradiction but just ignore it." Who gets to make the decision to ignore a rule? How does that go over when you say to a coach we ignore that rule, but we enforce this other rule. 2. teebob21 says "Fair ball all day long if the orange bag is not in use, right? " I think most of the respondents are saying it is fair ball even if the contrasting base IS in use. There does seem to be a contradiction in the rules |
What does colored bag in use or not in use mean? It is either there or it is not there.
Hitting the spot on the bag or on bare ground if not there are only different by the "foreign object" definition. :confused: |
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My response was situational because the OP lacked specifics. |
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82N1 addresses the ball passing over or contacting the white portion. 82N2 addresses the ball passing over or contacting only the contrasting color portion. However, I agree the rules in 8.2.N could be worded better simply by adding the word "only" to 82N2 |
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